Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
You forgot 'elderly' since these people are sterotypical white Protestants who have at the maximum 2 children 5 years apart and who don't even reproduce themselves overall. I'm waiting for the fire sale on abandoned OPC buildings. There are going to be a bunch of them shortly.
By your own admission, you don't know. How would you know truth when you saw it?
I didn't change the subject. Worship includes praise but also prayers as well. Jesus gave you one prayer to pray, not hundreds, and he tells you to pray in a closet with its doors shut, in private. He specifically says do not pray like the hypocrites, in public and in places of worship (synagogues). So, why do Protestants go to church if they do everything according to the Bible? Where does Jesus say worship should include group prayer on a Sunday?
I will object to that. Iscool will not and would not wander the aisles of Wal Mart. Now, the Dollar General is another thing...
Oh, Mark, better get that kevlar helmet and flack jacket, quick! Incoming. We can't let the facts get in the way of tradition (of Calvinists)...
In English: we will make up our own rules, even if they are not in the Bible, as long as they are not the same as those awful traditions of Catholics.
Speaking for God yet again? I'm surprised that you and Jedediah don't have a room on the same floor with the same cocktail.
If you believe your statement then it must be said I doubt very much that Christ is laughing....if they are lost only the enemy of God would be laughing.
Through immigration, legal and otherwise, and immigration only. Of course, this represents a loss in the "sending" country.
To be fair, Mainline Protestant Protestant Churches are also experiencing declining numbers.
Then we might define the arena as exclusively the US alone. In the US arena, the percentage of Catholics of the total population has been stable for some time now at just shy of 25%, as opposed to any claims of anything else. Fair?
Touche!
No, we don’t worship whatever God we create and we don’t make up a religion. Since we recognize the integrity and veracity of Scripture, we worship the God of Scripture, as presented in Scripture.
Do you not understand that Christianity is not about religion but a relationship? It’s not about being enslaved to a laundry list of do’s and don’t’s trying to earn God’s favor and approval and forgivenness, hoping against hope that in the end we’ll have been found not wanting. It’s about being forgiven in Christ through the new birth, being born again, as Jesus said we must be.
God’s forgiveness makes us children of God, period. Will we sin? Yes. He knows that. Does that condemn us to hell for sinning as the Catholic church teaches? No. We’re His children. We don’t become not His children just because we didn’t happen to ask forgiveness for something we forgot we did or didn’t have time to ask for before we die.
The Catholic religion keeps people constantly on edge. You never know whether you make it or not until it’s too late to do anything about it. It’s enslaving and that’s NOT what Christ came to do. He came to set us free.
The bondage which the Catholic church puts on people is due to their inaccurate portrayal of God as a intolerant, unforgiving taskmaster who is ready to zap someone for the least little transgression, not that of a loving Father who remembers that we are dust and has compassion for those who fear Him.
If the people are not kept in bondage by an inaccurate portrayal of God, then there’s no way to control them.
We answer to God alone. We go to the Father in prayer as directed by Jesus. We don’t forsake the assembling of ourselves together but do not do it out of obligation or compulsion in fear but gratitude and thanksgiving in love for what He has done for us.
Agreed. All of them appear to think that they are speaking for God.
“”Church Slavonic (which is an exact rendition of Greek specifically created for liturgical and theological use) and Syriac, were also widely used languages in Christendom.””
Here is some good information on how this comes together from UPENN-Robert Kraft..
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rak//temp/toronto3/report-frame.html
In Search of Jewish Greek Scriptures:
Exposing the Obvious? by Robert A. Kraft
Abstract: Jesus and his earliest followers apparently were Semitic speaking Jews living in Roman Palestine, but their messages quickly spread into the Greek speaking worlds in which Jews had been quite active for centuries. The Greek sources left to us by the early Christian authors, compilers, and copyists include Jewish writings and traditions of various sorts, especially those that later became “canonized.” Greek speaking Jews tend to disappear from our preserved sources in the second century CE, leaving the impression that the gradually dominating Semitic Judaism of the Rabbis has displaced most other Jewish representatives. This paper will challenge that simplistic assessment by drawing together evidence from and about Jewish scriptures in Greek throughout the Greco-Roman period.
More good reading...
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CONCEPT Of “ORTHODOXY”
IN EARLY CHRISTIANITY By Robert Kraft
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/gopher/other/journals/kraftpub/Christianity/orthodoxy.htm
A few excerpts..
By the year 400 of the common era, there had developed what can be called “classical Christian orthodoxy.” This type of Christianity became mainstream Christianity in both the eastern and the western world prior to the time of the Protestant Reformation. It not only defined its beliefs in terms of standard creeds, such as the so-called “Apostles’ Creed” and the so-called “Nicene Creed,” but it judged the conduct of its adherents in terms of certain prescribed rules and practices for worship and for private life. It not only appealed to a standard collection of religious writings as authoritative, but it also acknowledged the presence of institutional authority in the leaders of the church, an authority believed to have been passed down from generation to generation in a line of spiritual transmission that could be traced back to Jesus Christ himself. It not only actively sought to bring non-Christians into the fold, but it also actively fought to exclude so-called “heretics” and to prohibit such “heretics,” insofar as that was possible, from providing competition for so-called “orthodoxy.”
“modern Protestant Christianity has not been known for its attention to the details of early church history beyond the so-called NT period, despite the real relevance of such a broader awareness”
AMEN! AMEN!
Whether God choses me to accept the free gift of salvation without works, or whether I chose to accept the free gift of salvation without works, guess what...
Maybe God chose me and I don't know it...Maybe they chose God instead of the other way around...Either way, we're all adopted as the children of God...
But you're still out of the loop...
- Don't want to confess your sins to a priest? Come to our new church, we don't believe in that either.
- Don't think that how you treat others should matter? Neither do we.
From here it really wasn't that far a leap to:
- Don't want to wait for marriage to have sex? Come to our new church, we don't care.
- You say you're a homosexual? That's okay, we don't care at our church.
- You say you would rather go to a church with a priestess? Come on, we've even got a lesbian and a transvestite.
I’m not so certain the Catholic church will hold the “title” so to speak, of what this One world religion will look like. But it surely will be a part of, also the LDS. They will appeal to whereever large sums of money can be generated because it won’t be about religion as most will be led to believe. It will be, behind the front of religion, about money and power.
The worlds populace is ripe to be mislead...this is being fed daily via the media...”Let’s all get along”...”We’ve got to Love everybody”....But this love and unity which is being promoted has nothing whatsoever to do with the Love of God. It is a clear counterfeit and we know who counterfeits everything God is.
What is happening is identical to when man built the tower of Babel. It is self serving and an afront to Gods purposes for the human race he designed for nationhood, not internationalism.
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