This should be tattooed on the inside of everyone's eyelids.
Brilliant summary mate. Brilliant.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
In fact, it would eliminate 99% of the Catholic internet presence as well as Catholic publishing and periodicals if you limit it to only those individuals with authority to speak for the Church.
INDEED.
However, it’s all straw dog wailing and whining.
Even when one documents stuff from Cardinal level officialdom, they still pretend it’s not valid.
What a duplicitous pile of garbage.
“”That was JPII’s opinion on her co-operation””
So, you think Pope JP II was a heretic?
Explain how Mary’s free decision to say yes (fiat) is not co operation with redemption?
The Church Fathers say otherwise when they call Mary the New Eve
“For as Eve was seduced by the word of an angel to flee from God, having rebelled against His Word, so Mary by the word of an angel received the glad tidings that she would bear God by obeying his Word. The former was seduced to disobey God, but the latter was persuaded to obey God, so that the Virgin Mary might become the advocate of the virgin Eve. As the human race was subjected to death through [the act of] a virgin, so it was saved by a virgin.” Irenaeus, Against Heresies, V:19,1 (A.D. 180).
Well, you can just color me shocked. Because I just found out, according to netmilsmom, that Mary being the Co-Redemptrix, is not “Official Vatican Dogma”. It was merely JP II’s “opinion” of her co-operation. That would be post 137. So I’m guessing it’s not taught, never inferred, nor implicity believed. A new layer of opinion of dogma v. dogma of opinion.
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Below are the examples
of exalting other deities.
They are real.
They are serious.
They are owned,
operated in,
manifested in,
heart-felt wallowed in
by millions of Roman Catholics around the world.
Pretending otherwise does not change the facts.
White washing it with magicsterical diplospeak
doesn't change the facts.
Rationalizing it with 101 weasel words
doesn't change the facts.
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the FACTS are easy enough to see below
for anyone with
more discernment than a gnat's.
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Those reading this with any consciousness above comotose
no longer have any excuse.
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Holy Spirit will be nudging, urging, forsaking of all such
--ALL HINT OF SUCH--
IGNORING HIS LEADING, NUDGING, URGING
in such matters can be spiritually deadly.
Very spiritually deadly.
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ONCE AGAIN,
just a small part of
THE EVIDENCE: .
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Here's the title:
And it carries the official sanctions of:
ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.
WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR
Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .
Here they are:
However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.
p.32
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[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .
p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.
5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.
6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.
"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor
p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence
p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18
p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"
p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
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[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]
p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
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[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]
9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
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[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]
p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
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[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]
5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
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[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]
p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."
p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"
p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."
Get behind me satan!
>>So, you think Pope JP II was a heretic?<<
No, do you?
I believe that this is something he wished. Maybe even something he wanted, but he never made it dogma so we don’t have to believe it.
LOL! It is easier for you to believe in UFO's than in miracles from Heaven.
Well Golly, the word “Co-redemptrix” wasn’t even used in the article quoted of the writing of JPII.
Can you find that for me?
This should be tattooed on the inside of everyone's eyelids.
Brilliant summary mate. Brilliant.
Nor, I think, with most rational common sense blessed folks of any persuasion.
There's abundant documentation from various levels of the Vatican hierarchy applauding, encouraging, supporting, adroing, worshipping, that concept and Mary in that role amongst a list of other UNBIBLICAL roles as I've repeatedly documented.
THEY COULD EASILY ORDER A STOP TO ALL SUCH IN THE STRICTEST TERMS an ecclesiastically punish anyone who did otherwise.
THEY DON'T.
THEY DO THE OPPOSITE.
THAT MEANS SOMETHING.
SHEESH.
God’s Majesty and God at work in the lives of the suffering are always encouragements to me, too.
Thx for your kind reply.
I guess you get to psychoanalyze Pope JP II proving you are superior in your faith
I don’t think you understand.
Most Catholics don’t really care what “Proddys” think of them.
Including me. And I have enough of them in my own family.
I like how they think they are “The Church”
well.....for 1500 years “they” were the only church.....they were the church founded by Christ, they were the church that wrote, interpreted, and saved the bible.....I guess that gives them more than a little credence......ya think???
Oh, it’s taught and published within a LOT of places within Roman Catholocism.
And the hierarchy is enormously supportive of such notions.
They are either applauding it openly or looking the other way.
Convenient.
I was quoting you on your own post, and pinging you to let you know I was discussing your post. You know, what is required of another FReeper in order to keep it decent around here. You wrote this stuff, not me.
>>I guess you get to psychoanalyze Pope JP II proving you are superior in your faith<<
Wow, nasty. I’m on MadDawg’s daily prayer threads so I’m going to take that with a humble and contrite heart.
Simply, there is no dogma of Co-redemptrix.
If that’s wrong, you can link to the CCC or from Vatican.va and I’ll apologize.
That's evidently something many RC's need to assert quite frequently 24/7.
Perhaps they should consider, instead, that it would be wiser to quit listening to his
doctrines of demons as official dogma . . . and to quit inviting him to be a major leader in their Vatican Magicsterical pronouncements.
So I guess you missed the third line that says...
“In fact, the word Co-Redeptrix is not even found in a search of it. “
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