Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[Hank Kerchief]

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)

[1000 silverlings]

lol, and ancient Egypt— they took doctrine to new highs. Or lows I guess in burial practices

[OLD REGGIE]

"...It is the heretics who came later, elevated his status to one he would never assume unto himself, and perverted his teachings that bear the sin."

You must have Peter in mind.

[1000 silverlings]

*but they never achieve the force and clarity of a Christian creed, much less a systematic theology. *

this statement is totally rediculous

[Dr. Eckleburg]

"Read the Bible and see some of it." was saying that English translations of the Bible were better than, or even equal to, reading it in the original language. I think that's false.

Certainly reading English translations are "equal to" reading the Greek translations. If God intends a person to understand His word, that person will understand His word. English translations are perfectly capable of proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ in truth and light.

It's just one more stumbling block Rome puts in the way of the truth -- to presume unless a person reads Greek he can never really know what God is telling him.

Thus the supposed necessity for an interpreter like the magisterium who can explain the word of God without moving its lips.

Same lie; same source; same evidence against it.

And there is more nuance in the English language than in the Greek language, which was my point that you now appear to agree with.

[1000 silverlings]

or ridiculous even

[OLD REGGIE]

So tell it to me in the language that this it was spoken by JPII and I'll let you know how accurate your translation is.

Polski.

No matter. You're "expert" translation will not be accepted any more than the rest of your "hit and run away" claims.

[Natural Law]

"You must have Peter in mind."

Not only is that wrong, it is one of the more blatant attempts at mind reading I have witnessed to date.

[stfassisi]

Different time. Different Church.

Same Sacraments Same Church

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Your paintings show that Rome has encouraged blasphemous opinions of Mary for centuries. It's no coincidence that artwork was created during the Reformation which worked to rid the church of such blasphemy.

However, it took Rome 2,000 years to declare that blasphemy as dogma.

Not long enough.

[Natural Law]

"Polski."

Domyślanie się albo czy masz pewien źródło? (Guessing or do you have a link?)

[stfassisi]

For all of your cut & pasting

They are writings of the church fathers,what sense would it make for me to do anything other than cut and paste them to make a point?

Do you have paste"ophobia"or something?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

- I am not denying the use of the term alter Christus by the Church I am objecting to your continual use of a mangled, manipulated, and false translation of it.

The blasphemous term speaks for itself.

But don't take my word for it. I gave you evidence of what Rome believes the term to mean from the RCC catechism, from Roman Catholic priests and from encyclicals and dogma of the RCC.

It's all blasphemy. It's a lie. There is no "alter Christus." There is only Christ.

[wagglebee]

Then given the meaning of Paul's words he is saying in Christ's presence Paul will forgive whatever the Corinthians forgive and that he has done so for the sake of those Corinthians.

Saint Peter's warning about the destructive nature of YOPIOS was surely well-founded.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

there seems to be a lot of arrogance in the Calvinist posts.

lol. If we boast, we boast of the Lord. Not of our own sinlessness. Not of our own good works. Not of our own righteousness.

Jesus Christ alone.

"so our eyes look to the LORD our God, till he shows us his mercy."

Amen. So why do Roman Catholics look to Mary for mercy?

[Natural Law]

"The blasphemous term speaks for itself."

The only thing that is blasphemous is your interpretation of the term. I don't know why you persist in using that incorrect interpretation when you have been advised by many educated Catholics what the real meaning is.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Didn’t St. Paul say, “It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me.” So, was St. Paul an “alter Christus”?

BINGO! Christ within the believer. Christ's righteousness in the believer. Christ's obedience in the believer. Christ's mercy in the believer.

Thus men do not become Christ as Rome wrongly teaches. Believers remain human, yet they are indwelled by Christ, the Holy Spirit as a free gift from God to His own.

Keep thinking alone those lines. God willing, the truth will become even more evident.

[Natural Law]

"It's a lie."

That is the only thing in your post that you have any personal expertise in.

Surely, you aren't accusing me or any other Freeper of lying in violation of the forum rules you hold so dear?

[Jaded]

I sit here in my cube listening to a podcasts from Father Larry Richards (http://www.thereasonforourhope.org/). I have yet to hear Fr Larry say anything that the Calvinists claim Catholics teach. Quite the contrary, he says things the Calvinists swear Catholics stand firmly against. Guess that is what happens when their only source is Reformed Theologian, Loraine Boettner.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

"It's a lie."

That is the only thing in your post that you have any personal expertise in.

Thanks for the great example of the fact you cannot abide by the rules of the FR RF.

I call Roman Catholic dogma a lie and you call me a liar.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

I don't know why you persist in using that incorrect interpretation

I'm using the "interpretation" given by the RCC catechism, by Roman Catholic priests and by various encyclicals. I've even posted those examples and linked to them.

You, OTOH, have only your skepticism.

Truth - 1

Rome - 0