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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: MarkBsnr

The words of a lost soul!
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8,901 posted on 10/05/2010 7:40:20 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: OLD REGGIE; MarkBsnr; Legatus

From the same university where they give degrees in Pomposity?

-—to old fellows?


8,902 posted on 10/05/2010 7:40:24 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: RnMomof7; Natural Law
God is Love, yet He smote His Son on the cross with His wrath.

Sui-deicide. Ok.

God is … immutable

Unchanging. Love and then wrath. What strange pretzel theology results from Calvin's system.

8,903 posted on 10/05/2010 7:43:23 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Legatus

(raising hand slowly)I giggled until the dog woke up. The cat is already hiding. I can’t decide which one I like best.


8,905 posted on 10/05/2010 7:49:56 PM PDT by Jaded (I realized that after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F)
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To: MarkBsnr; editor-surveyor
The first five verses, prior to Romans 10:6 should be read to understand the rest of the verses you give, Mark. Verses 1-4 are about people ignoring God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, which is OF THE LAW. It's about ignorance and rebellion of God's righteousness. "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." Romans 10:4.

Verses 5-8 are about the righteousness of the law and of God contrasted.

Verses 9-13 are about how to receive God's righteousness.

They are not about running a race to the end where we will be judged. Unless you want them to be. Which would be going about to establish your own righteousness, which is of the law.

8,906 posted on 10/05/2010 7:51:38 PM PDT by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Stated correctly the Bible never refers to "private interpretation" of Scripture.

2 Peter 1: 20 First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, 21 because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

Thanks, Reggie. Since they don't pay much attention to the Holy Spirit, it makes sense they don't understand verses about the Holy Spirit.

8,907 posted on 10/05/2010 8:00:53 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: D-fendr

Sad thing is the number of people who follow along.


8,908 posted on 10/05/2010 8:01:33 PM PDT by Jaded (I realized that after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F)
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To: smvoice; MarkBsnr

> “They are not about running a race to the end where we will be judged. Unless you want them to be. Which would be going about to establish your own righteousness, which is of the law.”

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Nicely stated!
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8,909 posted on 10/05/2010 8:03:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: OLD REGGIE

lolol.


8,910 posted on 10/05/2010 8:04:28 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: OLD REGGIE
2 Corinthians 2:10 Any one whom you forgive, I also forgive. What I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, has been for your sake in the presence of Christ,

"...presence of Christ."

Nice catch, Reggie!

8,911 posted on 10/05/2010 8:10:20 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: OLD REGGIE
For how many centuries prior to 1950? When and where?

Details, details, details...

8,912 posted on 10/05/2010 8:12:59 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You know, I used to think people just used Latin because they thought it made them sound intellectual. Now, I think they use it because they are both snooty and so that they can interpret it to say whatever they want it to.


8,913 posted on 10/05/2010 8:14:07 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
"I used google and a 60 year old Latin dictionary."

Not having the prerequisite fluency in Latin is too big a handicap to overcome with such primitive tools.

8,914 posted on 10/05/2010 8:24:23 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: RnMomof7
"Here is the issue, if Rome says something Catholics just say "yea thats right""

Well, duh! That, by definition, is what makes us Catholic.

8,915 posted on 10/05/2010 8:26:48 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
"...in their midst.""

Why don't you use google and another 60 year old dictionary of your choice, and explain how that doesn't mean in their presence.

8,916 posted on 10/05/2010 8:30:57 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: OLD REGGIE; Dr. Eckleburg

Since at least the time of the Council of Ephesus, which took place in the 5th century.


8,917 posted on 10/05/2010 8:31:17 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: OLD REGGIE
"Are you suggesting that your selective selection of Augustine's writing ads to the revealed word?"

No, I am just trying to determine the extent of your sudden acceptance of Tradition as part of the Revealed Word.

8,918 posted on 10/05/2010 8:33:57 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Jaded; Legatus

I keep wondering who I know that might enjoy those!

Thanks, Legs.


8,919 posted on 10/05/2010 8:40:14 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Natural Law
The way it is worded, it is an expression of the poster's mind - not a reading of yours - though it pushes the envelope.

For example, "You must be thinking of the Red Sea" is not making it personal. It is tentative, like a question, i.e. "Are you thinking of the Red Sea?"

8,920 posted on 10/05/2010 8:51:06 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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