Posted on 02/12/2011 6:20:06 PM PST by topcat54
Joel McDurmon, hosting today's show for Gary DeMar, exposes End-times Dysfunction (E.D.) for what it is. Joel shares with doomsdayers how they can get relief from their paranoia and troubled souls.
Only a person who is looking to lay up treasures on earth would say such a thing. To try to use the deceptive practice of projecting an untruth to hopefully self justify unbiblical belief will only end in failure.
Matthew 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. To claim those of us who look forward to the time we will be with the Lord is simply false. As for me an my house we will serve the Lord.
Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. 25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
So you go right ahead RJR. Try to get people to focus on what they will gain in this world but be advised that the true scriptures and word of the one true God say different. Let God be true.
Spread your false doctrine of prosperity on earth if you must but know that those of us who take scripture seriously will trust God for all we need. And we are full of joy for what God has in store. There is not darkness at all Mr. RJR, there is no global triumph of evil outside of God’s will. There is only His willingness to allow those who fall under His wrath to “hang themselves” with false doctrines and unbelief. We serve only one master.
Amen and Amen!
“What would be other evidence of sanctification?”
Fruit of the Spirit, humble and contrite heart, among others.
Galatians 2:20:”I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.”
Sanctification is an inward work, a dying to self.
I don’t see good works as a “necessary” component in salvation either...but I think they are an important evidence of salvation - not always possible though (i.e. thief on the cross, deathbed conversions).
After the vitriolic personal attacks by Theophilus in his post 557 to me
I agree with you on #557.
As soon as I posted it, it suddenly occurred to me that the "your madman cult..." would be interpreted as a personal attack. I should have made the parenthetical statement ("No I am not calling you a Nazi"). The intent was to point out that the German leader was a madman, was a cult figure, and was a murderer of Jews - all of those traits that are supposed to be of the alleged antichrist. The imagery was one of a German citizen looking out the window and seeing all of those things. Lets say that we described the president of the US as a madman, Jew hater, and a cult figure - his character is not your character.
It came off wrong. You, and everyone else should be offended.
I apologize and never would consider you a Nazi
Help me out here, is the humble Spirit the laughing jackass picture or is that the contrite heart?
I accept your apology. I will however not debate you in the future given your proclivity for vitriol. I evidently “lead you into anger” and will refrain from that risk in the future.
Important sometimes to step back and touch the fundamentals we all do believe, unequivocally.
>> “Who does it benefit to believe Christ does not reign today over heaven and earth?” <<
.
To observe the current deep decay of humanity today, with pederasty taking center stage, and government schools literally teaching homosexuality as normal, and all forms of sexual immorality as just an acceptable alternative, it takes some powerful drugs to imagine that as Christ’s millenial reign.
.
>> “Who does it benefit to believe the Gospel will not prevail in this life?” <<
.
A straw question really. The gospel has and will continue to prevail among those that are a part of his kingdom, but ultimately his kingdom is not of this Earth. He will return to make his enemies his footstool, but before he does that he will claim his own in the Harpazo that is promised.
.
>> “I just don’t understand the inherent pessimism of dispensationalism.” <<
.
There is no pessimism there to understand; there is acceptance of what is prophecied, and the joy of being where and what he intends us to be.
.
>> “The earth and everything therein were created for Christ’s sheep.” <<
.
Then why has he promised to destroy the universe with fervent heat? - No, he is creating a place for us, and it is not Earth, which will be incinerated.
.
>> “We may be thwarted, but we will never be defeated.” <<
.
I think you mean that Christ will never be defeated? We must be defeated that Christ may shine through us.
Don’t get so anxious that you dismiss his plan for your own.
CONGRATS.
That’s admirable.
And, an extremely rare phenomenon on Fr.
Thanks.
FWIW, you moved up several notches in my respect.
However, He is personally ruling now
There is a strain of Christianity that holds Jesus has already returned as much has he every will and that whatever world we can build together is as good as the world will ever get.
Something I need to do more of.
Prayers up for the young man fighting addiction. He'll need all he can get but when it comes down to it, it will be up to him.
The Palpal number!
“Help me out here, is the humble Spirit the laughing jackass picture or is that the contrite heart?”
If you’re referring to some of the more comical posts that are seen, I’d say that’s responding with honey instead of vinegar. I’m sure that the person that the jackass picture is meant for gets a laugh out of it, but it gets the point across without vitriol. I certainly get a laugh out of it!
I see, mockery is the highest form of a humble heart and contrite spirit. Thanks for clearing that up and I’m glad you’re entertained.
Actually, unlike you, when I say the Lord's Prayer, I actually mean what I say, and ask for things I expect God to do. Such as -- progressively bring all things under the benign jurisdiction of the King. My God, unlike yours, is already at work today to manifest his Kingdom in every sphere of life -- and those who have eyes to see, and faith to believe, can see one thing after another conscripted into the King's service.
I guess I don’t see it the same way. I think it’s “poking fun”, not mockery. There’s no leering, no scoffing, no ridicule involved. I think it’s one poster’s way of responding to an adversarial post in a gentle, funny way. I also laugh at some of topcat54’s cartoons - I really like the one with the couple waiting for the rapture and the man asks, “Do I have time for a cup of coffee?” It’s funny!!
If you want to see real mockery, I could post a few lines I’ve seen...
You are on the money, here. A writer who did much good for glory of God, David Chilton, fell into that kind of heresy after a massive heart attack. I believe the parables of the Kingdom often suggest quiet, incremental growth as the norm -- the mustard seed, the leaven hidden in the dough, the stone not cut by human hands that grows into a world-filling mountain ...
I think we can anticipate ongoing Kingdom activity up 'til the end -- but the final fulfillment is literally more glorious than we can imagine. If what God is up to NOW is wonderful -- and it is -- the post-resurrection universe is something to look forward to, indeed!
>> unlike you, when I say the Lord’s Prayer, I actually mean what I say<<
Unlike me? You have pomposity to tell me what I mean when I pray? Wouldn’t that statement fall under the category of arrogant and judgmental? Do you also project your assumptions on the meaning of scripture?
>> My God is at work, and invites us to work with Him. Your God apparently only wants folks to fill the bleachers, pop open a few cold ones, and wait for the fireworks to begin.<<
That and your last comment are childish and not even worth a response.
Just wanted to clarify you are not part of that strain.
Rather on a par with the accusation that one who seeks to further God's glory in this world only wants to amass material goods!
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.