Yep. The Pentecostals think that they are mimicking Moses when they worship snakes, don't they?
Posted on 04/14/2011 9:21:51 AM PDT by marshmallow
Again, you seem to not understand how this works.
God, through His Spirit, moved certain men to write down those things that He wants known. Those men, due to their own nature, interpreted that movement in their own way but because God is Sovereign, His will was the way that was interpreted.
That same writing, which was breathed by God Himself, is read and understood by us but interpreted by the Holy Spirit, who authored the original document.
The Holy Spirit, not the Church, is infallible and leads us in all things back to a closer worship of the Father.
No doubt.
Thanks for your interpretation.
No offense, but I'm going with the Church Fathers.
What do you think “full of grace” means. Also full of grace was not just used to descibe one attribute of Mary like I would say you are handsome. It was used to describe her whole person. In essence we could say she was renamed “full of grace.”
[9] And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. - Mar 7:9 KJV
Mary was not in any way, shape, form or fashion sinless. She was born with the sin nature, passed down from generation to generation from Adam, just like the rest of us. If you can show where Mary was born of a virgin and therefore without the sin nature, by all means please do.
“Jesus had no sin because the sin nature which is passed down from Adam was not passed down to Christ.”
Jesus is without sin because Jesus is God, the second person of the Trinity.
No offense, but I’m going with God the Father. Your Church Fathers can’t save you, but Christ can.
Word it as you wish with gray areas. We pray to the Lord, and we shall have no other gods before Him.
One can pray FOR friends, one should not pray TO them, nor to another besides the Lord. Paul, Mary, Peter or otherwise.
It is not a time thing, it is a person thing. The person of the father, His Son and His Holy Spirit are those that deserve being prayed to, that deserve to hear OUR prayer.
Yep. The Pentecostals think that they are mimicking Moses when they worship snakes, don't they?
But if He had been born of anyone other than a virgin, He would have inherited the sin nature from Adam. Why can't you RCs understand that point? This is why the virgin birth is so important, it's because it keeps Christ from inheriting the sin nature.
Is it “Roman Catholic tradition” to ask “do people who are severely mentally retarded sin?”. Or as marshmlow asked, “do babies sin”?
I can’t help but notice, as you seemingly (I say SEEMINGLY since I can’t read minds) are so EAGER to pile personal sin upon Mary, that you haven’t addressed those questions.
It’s no mystery why you nor any other who wishes to libel Mary wih sin never do address those points. Because you can’t and yet they destroy your “all” means “all, all the time” rigid, absolutist nonsense.
Yes, St. Paul never used hyperbole. What a fool I’ve been. < /sarc > (sarc tag again for those who can’t see sarcasm)
Where does your sect get extrabiblical teachings such as justification by faih alone and imputed righteousness from?
Pentecostals don't worship snakes and you full well know it. Next time, try an attack that's at least somewhat rooted in reality.
That opinion is foreign to both orthodox Protestant and Catholic teaching.
Bu Bu bu but . . .
that would take all the fun out of irrational attacks!
Actually, they do, but deny it at the same time.
Look at some of the saints that they worship even now:
Benny Hinn; Joel Osteen; John Piper; R.C. Sproul (and the odious junior R.C.), Swaggart, Humbard, Oral Roberts and so on. More ancient ones include Aimee Semple Mcpherson and the Campbells pere et fils and other heroes of the Restoration. Look at the worship of Luther, Calvin and the rather odd Zwingli. Look at the saintlike designations given to guys like Hus.
Oh, but it's not worship. No prayers are said to them. They were allowed to hijack the rubes and the opportunists away from Christianity, but they are not saints. Heroes, yes, but not saints.
They may not willingly commit sins, but by being an inheritor of Adam's sin, they have sin in their life and cannot approach the Throne of God, much less God Himself. Those that die in this state are judged by a Righteous, Holy and Just God. I don't know their ultimate status, but I do know that God is a Just God and cannot deal unjustly. Make of that what you will.
[21] For since by man [came] death, by man [came] also the resurrection of the dead. [22] For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. - 1Cr 15:21-22 KJVThink long and hard on this passage and get back to me when you understand it.
I looks like the over is shaping up to be a good bet.
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