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A Blueprint for a Monarchy in America [How Two Catholic Monarchists view the rest of us Americans]
The Altar and Throne Monarchy Site ^ | December 19, 2008 | Nick

Posted on 05/03/2011 12:17:26 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

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While the constitution allows for complete freedom of religion for all inhabitants of the imperial domains, not all religions are equal in the eyes of the state. Subjects are those people who do not belong to Recognized Churches; they are divided into those with religion (Moral Theists) and those without it (Heathens), both groups are free to practice their belief systems in privacy and without interference from imperial authorities. Moral Theists may vote for and hold the office of Tribune of Subjects, an officer who represents them in the Senate. Both Moral Theists and Heathens are barred from all other elections and elected offices, the military officer corps, teaching positions at government schools and the practice of law.

Those Without Religion (Heathens)

Those Apathetic to Religion Those With Religion (Moral Theists) Citizens

Citizens are those people who belong to Recognized Churches; the constitution recognizes two classes of citizens: plebeians and patricians. Though all inhabitants of the imperial domains stand equal before the law, the extent to which one can participate in political life is determined partly by one’s social standing. Citizens, however, possess rights that Subjects do not: these include the freedom of assembly, the right to imperial petition, freedom of the press and freedom of speech. Children born to Citizen Families attain citizenship with a proclamation of faith and featly on their 18th birthday in the presence of the County Magistrate; those who decline to make this statement are demoted to Heathen Status.

....Only state-recognized churches receive tax-free status; by requiring 10 million members for this I hope to force the myriad of independent Protestant churches to combine into larger organizations with a more strict emphasis on doctrinal orthodoxy. Catholics of course get preeminent status in the government. As you can see, people may lose their citizen status or office should they be found guilty of manifest public sin.

1 posted on 05/03/2011 12:17:28 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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2 posted on 05/03/2011 12:21:42 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Dear God, whose name I do not know - thank you for my life. I forgot how BIG...thank you. Thank you.)
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Recognized Churches: NO THANKS. It is doubtly the early Church under Rome (the Empire, nor Chicom today-and many others) hold such beliefs!

J.S.


3 posted on 05/03/2011 12:22:49 PM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Allow me to let you in on a little secret, Alex: there’s no shortage of goofballs on the Internet, and finding the ravings of a goofball and posting them isn’t really much of an achievement.


4 posted on 05/03/2011 12:28:53 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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RM -- this thread has an inflammatory add-on by the poster to the subject line of the article.[How Catholic Monarchists view the rest of us Americans]

please can you remove this?

5 posted on 05/03/2011 12:29:38 PM PDT by Cronos
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"How Catholic Monarchists view the rest of us Americans"

Yeah Alex, I know. It really sucks to be...What class do you fall into? Heathen is it?

6 posted on 05/03/2011 12:30:54 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (Some minds are like cement; thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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Note: all Christian brothers and sisters (whether you be Lutheran, Catholic, Anglican, Baptist, Orthodox, Oriental, Presbyterian, Mennonite, Pentecostal etc.)

This article was posted just to get Christians to fight each other — that’s the aim of the left, to divide us Christians

Let us ignore this and reject the left's aims to divide Christians

7 posted on 05/03/2011 12:33:38 PM PDT by Cronos
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Agreed! This is just goofy.


8 posted on 05/03/2011 12:39:31 PM PDT by greatplains
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To: Cronos
This article was posted just to get Christians to fight each other — that’s the aim of the left, to divide us Christians. Let us ignore this and reject the left's aims to divide Christians

The only way this thread could get Christians to fight each other would be if someone on the thread was supportive of Catholic Monarchism. Would that be you, Cronos?

9 posted on 05/03/2011 12:40:35 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Dear God, whose name I do not know - thank you for my life. I forgot how BIG...thank you. Thank you.)
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To: Campion

The rumours of the supercomputer underneath the Vatican with all the Protestant names and locations makes so more sense now.

Freegards, You may call me “Duke Ransomed”, my heathen serfs


10 posted on 05/03/2011 12:40:35 PM PDT by Ransomed
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It is not an ecumenical thread so antagonism is allowed.


11 posted on 05/03/2011 12:42:31 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Ransomed

“...makes so more sense now.”

Yeesh.

Freegards


12 posted on 05/03/2011 12:43:29 PM PDT by Ransomed
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Stopped by to join the ignore caucus.

Thanks Cronos


13 posted on 05/03/2011 12:44:48 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory; and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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Yet, you yourself say that we cannot add inflammatory statements to Article TITLEs -- the original article on the website does not have .[How ....Monarchists view the rest of us Americans
14 posted on 05/03/2011 12:49:29 PM PDT by Cronos
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Prophesies Regarding the Coming Great Catholic Monarch
15 posted on 05/03/2011 12:52:39 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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One can certainly find magisterial documents of various weight and importance showing a preference for monarchies with an established Catholic Church, but those should also be balanced by the following magisterial document of the Vatican II Ecumenical Council, the “Declaration on Religious Liberty”:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651207_dignitatis-humanae_en.html


16 posted on 05/03/2011 12:54:13 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Cronos
If I deem a comment to be flame bait, I may remove it.

I do not know of any Catholic Monarchists on this forum - political conservatism (emphasis on individual liberty) and monarchism do not mix well.

17 posted on 05/03/2011 12:57:37 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Cronos
I'm currently reading this:

Suffice it to say that those who are deeply invested in the idea of the ascendancy of global democracy or the superiority of republican government or the collapse of the Church will not like this book. ;-)

I'm not saying I'm for monarchy in any form, its just that 2000 years of solid Catholic prophecy foretells a return to monarchy, not the ascendancy of republican or democratic governmental systems.

That might be what is behind a lot of these kooky "Catholic monarchy" websites.

18 posted on 05/03/2011 1:01:47 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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this is not a comment -- can you read the add-on to the TITLE of this article.

You yourself have said in the past that one cannot add on inflammatory comments to article TITLEs or distort TITLES, and have deleted them. As an impartial RM, I'm sure you would enforce the same rules you have applied before.

19 posted on 05/03/2011 1:02:01 PM PDT by Cronos
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"political conservatism (emphasis on individual liberty) and monarchism do not mix well."

FYI, its called a constitutional monarchy.

20 posted on 05/03/2011 1:02:39 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (Some minds are like cement; thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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