Posted on 12/30/2011 1:31:42 PM PST by marshmallow
On Sunday the Anglican Ordinariate for the United States will be formally announced. As we prepare to receive our Anglican brothers and sisters in this historic step towards church unity, what will the Anglicans be receiving from their step of faith into full communion, and what will we be receiving from them? Here's my list:
What Anglicans will receive from entering into full communion with the Catholic Church:
1. Ecclesial unity with the Bishop of Rome - The Pope!
2. Communion with over a billion Catholics worldwide
3. Validity of orders and sacraments
4. Marian apparitions
5. Evelyn Waugh, G.K.Chesterton, Flannery O'Connor, Hilaire Belloc
6. Unity rather than schism
7. The truth about Henry VIII
8. Peace rather than continual strife
9. Sacred Heart of Jesus, the Divine Mercy
10. Italy, Spain, France, Poland, Ireland, Bavaria, Austria.
11. New understanding and sharing in Catholic spirituality
12. Chartres, Mont St Michel, Notre Dame, Sacre Coeur
13. Belonging to a church that transcends culture and class
14. Relics
15. Solidarity with Catholic bishops and clergy
16. The Sistine Chapel
17. New relationship with global Christianity
18. The Infant of Prague
19. Santiago de Compostella
20. Holy Cards
21. Communion with all the Catholic saints
22. Michaelangelo, Raphael, Carravagio, Leonardo da Vinci
23. A new understanding of English history
24. A final authority
25. Cohesive and comprehensive doctrinal and moral teaching
What Roman Catholics will receive from Anglicans who are entering into full communion through the Ordinariate:
1. An appreciation of English language, culture and history
2. The English choral tradition
3. Wesley's hymns
4. Ad orientem celebration of the Mass
5. The General Thanksgiving
6. George Herbert
7. Preaching tabs, academic hood and preaching scarf
8. Choral Evensong
9. The Coverdale Psalter
10. T.S.Eliot and C.S.Lewis
11. The General Confession
12. Well educated clergy
13. Julian of Norwich
14. Lace and Incense
15. Our Lady of Walsingham
16. Needlepoint kneelers
17. The Caroline Divines
18. Altar rails
19. Anglican chant
20. Charles I - King and Martyr
21. Impatience with modernity
22. Nine Lessons and Carols
23. Altar frontals
24. John Donne and George Herbert
25. Tea and biscuits
What about bingo? second collections?
25. Tea and bickies
Yeah
:)
And Rio.
Mardi Gras and Carne Vale.
Matka Boska Czestochowa.
Walker Percy and Flannery O'Connor.
Endless regrettable Kennedies.
Many, many 20th and 21st century martrys--- and just in time for many more.
Humanae Vitae and other miracles of grace.
Michael Moore. Joan Chittister.
Maronites, Melkites and Chaldeans--- O My!
Men who are not Black Muslims but whose middle initial is "X."
Men whose middle name is "Maria."
Oplatki.
Oscar Wilde at last.
Not so sure abot this one. We still have many internal enemies and infiltrators to endure.
True, but I think Fr. Longenecker is referring to the particular relationship of the Anglo-Catholics to the Anglican hierarchy, through which women priests, bishops and assorted other theological absurdities were constantly being forced upon them. At least in the Catholic Church, they’ll be able to have their own canonical structure which should free them from that affliction.
Well, if the UK is any model, the liberal Episcopal bishops will at first shrug it off as unimportant. Then when they start hemorrhaging congregants like the CofE did, they will start whining and pissing and moaning.
It’s going to be far more entertaining in the US, however, because they have already had a schism that has turned bitter, when many of the conservatives left. So this means that they will lose even more, who are religious but liberal, and just think the American Episcopal church has lost it.
I do not understand this reversal of the Reformation. Just doesn’t compute! Granted, the Episcopal Church has gone apostate, but there is a plethora of evangelical and conservative Anglican organizations that they could affiliate with. But, to pass back over the Rubican is inexplicable.
Many things the Holy Spirit does are inexplicable. But they often bring joy and hope.
The Reformation’s grounding in medieval Nominalism has come home to roost.
“What Roman Catholics will receive from Anglicans who are entering into full communion through the Ordinariate:
1. An appreciation of English language, culture and history
Already have it.
2. The English choral tradition
Do we even need that? I would rather have Gregorian chant any day.
3. Wesley’s hymns
I just threw up a little.
4. Ad orientem celebration of the Mass
Got it already.
5. The General Thanksgiving
Don’t need it.
6. George Herbert
Don’t need him.
7. Preaching tabs, academic hood and preaching scarf
Don’t need them.
8. Choral Evensong
Gregorian chant is better.
9. The Coverdale Psalter
Okay, I’ll take that.
10. T.S.Eliot and C.S.Lewis
Nah, we use ‘em when we need ‘em.
11. The General Confession
?
12. Well educated clergy
Have them, need more, but have them.
13. Julian of Norwich
One of ours already.
14. Lace and Incense
Go to any Latin Mass.
15. Our Lady of Walsingham
Always OURS.
16. Needlepoint kneelers
?
17. The Caroline Divines
Why would we want them?
18. Altar rails
Got them in the better churches.
19. Anglican chant
Gregorian is better.
20. Charles I - King and Martyr
If he’s really a martyr, then he’s always been ours since then.
21. Impatience with modernity
Hah! Go to a Latin Mass.
22. Nine Lessons and Carols
Midnight Mass is better.
23. Altar frontals
Don’t need them.
24. John Donne and George Herbert
Don’t really need them.
25. Tea and biscuits
Coffee and donuts, thanks.
Even in time, those independent evangelical and conservative Anglican churches may take a second look at the ordinate in the USA.
That's the problem right there. Our Lord didn't found "a plethora of organizations". He founded one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church.
But, to pass back over the Rubican is inexplicable.
What if Caesar was wrong to pass over the Rubicon? What if Henry VIII was (spectacularly !!) wrong to declare himself "Supreme Head of the Church in England"? What if Thomas More, John Fisher, Edmund Campion, and Oliver Plunkett were right?
I don't think Anglo-Catholics typically wear those much, do they?
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