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Catholic Sources and the Declaration of Independence - Democracy not a "child of the Reformation"
Our Sunday Visitor via Catholic Education Resource Center ^ | 1930 | REV. JOHN C. RAGER, S.T.D.

Posted on 02/02/2012 6:27:03 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

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1 posted on 02/02/2012 6:27:08 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Teófilo; Cronos; wagglebee; dsc; Deo volente; MarkBsnr; Mad Dawg; ArrogantBustard; ...

Some important facts and concepts every Catholic should know.


2 posted on 02/02/2012 6:28:47 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Ping


3 posted on 02/02/2012 6:37:58 PM PST by STJPII
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
How would the Founders feel about the USCCB backing obama?
4 posted on 02/02/2012 7:16:51 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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 "The Roman Catholic Church gave more financial aid and social support to the study of astronomy for over six centuries, from the recovery of ancient learning during the late Middle Ages into the Enlightenment, than any other, and, probably, all other, institutions."

-- J.L. Heilbron University of California at Berkley.   

The Catholic Church: Impacting History

How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization

How the (Catholic) Church Built Western Civilization
How Catholicism Created Capitalism  

How Christianity Led to Freedom, Capitalism, and the Success of the West

It is all very well to point out that important scientists, like Louis Pasteur, have been Catholic. More revealing is how many priests have distinguished themselves in the sciences. It turns out, for instance, that the first person to measure the rate of acceleration of a freely falling body was Fr. Giambattista Riccioli. The man who has been called the father of Egyptology was Fr. Athanasius Kircher (also called "master of a hundred arts" for the breadth of his knowledge). Fr. Roger Boscovich, who has been described as "the greatest genius that Yugoslavia ever produced," has often been called the father of modern atomic theory.

In the sciences it was the Jesuits in particular who distinguished themselves; some 35 craters on the moon, in fact, are named after Jesuit scientists and mathematicians.

By the eighteenth century, the Jesuits

had contributed to the development of pendulum clocks, pantographs, barometers, reflecting telescopes and microscopes, to scientific fields as various as magnetism, optics and electricity. They observed, in some cases before anyone else, the colored bands on Jupiter’s surface, the Andromeda nebula and Saturn’s rings. They theorized about the circulation of the blood (independently of Harvey), the theoretical possibility of flight, the way the moon effected the tides, and the wave-like nature of light. Star maps of the southern hemisphere, symbolic logic, flood-control measures on the Po and Adige rivers, introducing plus and minus signs into Italian mathematics — all were typical Jesuit achievements, and scientists as influential as Fermat, Huygens, Leibniz and Newton were not alone in counting Jesuits among their most prized correspondents [Jonathan Wright, The Jesuits, 2004, p. 189].

Seismology, the study of earthquakes, has been so dominated by Jesuits that it has become known as "the Jesuit science." It was a Jesuit, Fr. J.B. Macelwane, who wrote Introduction to Theoretical Seismology, the first seismology textbook in America, in 1936. To this day, the American Geophysical Union, which Fr. Macelwane once headed, gives an annual medal named after this brilliant priest to a promising young geophysicist. 
  

The Jesuits were also the first to introduce Western science into such far-off places as China and India. In seventeenth-century China in particular, Jesuits introduced a substantial body of scientific knowledge and a vast array of mental tools for understanding the physical universe, including the Euclidean geometry that made planetary motion comprehensible. Jesuits made important contributions to the scientific knowledge and infrastructure of other less developed nations not only in Asia but also in Africa and Central and South America.
Beginning in the nineteenth century, these continents saw the opening of Jesuit observatories that studied such fields as astronomy, geomagnetism, meteorology, seismology, and solar physics. Such observatories provided these places with accurate time keeping, weather forecasts (particularly important in the cases of hurricanes and typhoons), earthquake risk assessments, and cartography. In Central and South America the Jesuits worked primarily in meteorology and seismology, essentially laying the foundations of those disciplines there. The scientific development of these countries, ranging from Ecuador to Lebanon to the Philippines, is indebted to Jesuit efforts.

5 posted on 02/02/2012 7:19:16 PM PST by Coleus (John 3:16, John 6:53-58)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Any attempt to tie Rome to democracy is laughable..


6 posted on 02/02/2012 7:27:50 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Christ is a king. I would rather have His monarchy than any democracy.


7 posted on 02/02/2012 7:45:35 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: RnMomof7

You obviously didn’t read the article.


8 posted on 02/02/2012 7:45:46 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: goodwithagun

How would the Founders - some of whom were slave owners - feel about a black man as president?

I suppose we all could ask stupid achronistic questions, huh?


9 posted on 02/02/2012 7:47:59 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Oops! “anachronistic”


10 posted on 02/02/2012 7:48:54 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
Revisionist nonsense. The founders were no fan of the RCC, and the RCC was opposed to Enlightenment Republicanism.

Any fifth columnist who puts loyalty to a foreign clerical monarch over our Constitution has no business living here. That isn't "anti-Catholicism" that is the truth.

11 posted on 02/02/2012 7:54:31 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: vladimir998
Revisionist nonsense. The founders were no fans of the RCC, and the RCC was opposed to Enlightenment Republicanism.

Any fifth columnist who puts loyalty to a foreign clerical monarch over our Constitution has no business living here. That isn't "anti-Catholicism" that is the truth.

12 posted on 02/02/2012 7:54:45 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: Clemenza

You are correct sir.

The “Founders” established a Republican form of government. Not a Democracy. Democracies have a history of short life and violent end.

They were certainly Anti-Monarch. The battle cry was no King but Jesus. (No mention of a Pope)

The Loyalists were often Catholics.

Now, they did set the nation up with freedom of religion, and prohibited an establishment of a State Religion.

It is a sad state of affairs today, but there are some who still would defend the “divine right of Kings” (nonsense indeed) and a Monarchy as an acceptable form of government.

It is my opinion that this article is only posted to inflame others and divide us in our take of stopping the Commie assault we are under.


13 posted on 02/02/2012 8:10:28 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Thanks for this. Of course, all the haters will be foaming at the mouth but what’s new??

Btw, it’s no coincidence that the feast of St Bellarmine is also Constitution Day.


14 posted on 02/02/2012 8:11:09 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Clemenza

You wrote:

“Revisionist nonsense.”

Nope.

“The founders were no fan of the RCC,”

Who said they were otherwise?

“and the RCC was opposed to Enlightenment Republicanism.”

Thank God.

“Any fifth columnist who puts loyalty to a foreign clerical monarch over our Constitution has no business living here.”

Jesus is a foreign clerical monarch. And Jesus doesn’t care about the constitution of any earthly nation.

“That isn’t “anti-Catholicism” that is the truth.”

No, it’s anti-Catholic, and anti-Christ too.


15 posted on 02/02/2012 8:14:42 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Clemenza

From what I can find, the only signer of the Declaration of Independence was Charles Carroll of Carrollton Maryland.

“He was elected to the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, and remained a delegate until 1778. He arrived too late to vote in favor of it, but was able to sign the Declaration of Independence.”


16 posted on 02/02/2012 8:15:43 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Clemenza

The revisionist nonsense is that which is taught in public schools & peddled by the likes of David Barton, which has erased all Catholic influence in American history.


17 posted on 02/02/2012 8:18:03 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

These people are so far out in ‘left’ field it will take a knock down from Christ Himself to get their attention. This nation was established as a ‘representative’ republic without any need to filter through Rome. The ‘mess’ this nation is headed is not going to get any better and part of the problem is self appointed men revise the WORD and rewrite history.

The Heavenly Father is in control and HE never set up shop in Rome regardless of what some religious organizations claim. IT is WRITTEN.


18 posted on 02/02/2012 8:23:42 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

“....if you can bear the truth twisted by knaves.”...

“Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty.”

To have liberty under the Roman Catholics is as to have had liberty under the Romans.”

Our Lord Jesus Christ is the only Lord of Lords, and Kings of Kings; and He shall reign for ever and ever.

“My Lord said unto My Lord, sit thou at My right hand until I make thine enemies Thy footstool.”


19 posted on 02/02/2012 8:25:00 PM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
How bizarre.

All of the history I have read clearly indicates the the American Experiment is the product of the Magna Carta (Challenging the authority of divinely appointed Kings by Rome) and the Enlightenment (Voltaire, Locke and Newton).

What a bizarre claim to that which the Church fought for centuries.

20 posted on 02/02/2012 8:25:17 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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