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James Carville: Romney’s Mormon religion still a problem [Mitt silent on bishop, gov roles]
Daily Caller.com ^ | July 6, 2012 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 07/08/2012 8:01:01 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: Psalm 144

yup...


141 posted on 07/08/2012 1:39:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: rogue yam
That is why I will vote for the one Presidential candidate with a chance of winning who has said he will repeal Obamacare: Mitt Romney.

What has Romney ever done which would give you the impression that he is to be trusted?

Personally I would prefer to elect congressmen and senators with the guts to repeal Obama (i.e., impeach the tyrant).

Romney has a track record of being just as much of a tyrant as Obama (only on a limited scale).

142 posted on 07/08/2012 1:40:10 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: svcw; E. Pluribus Unum

“Religion is part of who a candidate is, so why not talk about it.”

Do you mean core beliefs might be important in a person’s makeup?

How revolutionary a concept in the post-Rove era!


143 posted on 07/08/2012 1:40:56 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Government HealthControl. Uniting the compassion of HMOs and the diligence of bureaucracy.)
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To: Elsie

Until your posts this thread was a purely attack Romney thread, and attack anyone who would admit they’re voting for him to remove Barry Dunham. Your posts, coming 120 posts on, are the FIRST hint of any discussion of Romney’s religion, yet this thread was posted as a ‘religion forum’ thread. I suspect even you might find that strange. BTW, how is the JB Weld holding out on that leaking gas tank?


144 posted on 07/08/2012 1:41:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: svcw

Elsie said I was a religious bigot. I was responding to her. Try to keep up.


145 posted on 07/08/2012 1:41:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Psalm 144
It's the Nature of man:
 

Genesis 11:1-4
 
And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly.
And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar.
And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

146 posted on 07/08/2012 1:42:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dragonblustar

It is hard, but it is a given, and must be endured.

But yes my friend, it is damned hard and bitter to watch.


147 posted on 07/08/2012 1:42:58 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Government HealthControl. Uniting the compassion of HMOs and the diligence of bureaucracy.)
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To: Psalm 144

Elsie said I was a religious bigot. I was responding to her. Try to keep up.


148 posted on 07/08/2012 1:44:09 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: RitaOK
There is no rebuttal. This is the fear vote on steroids.

Good point.

149 posted on 07/08/2012 1:47:02 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Heh. I’ll just give you a skip henceforth.

Pax.


150 posted on 07/08/2012 1:47:20 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Government HealthControl. Uniting the compassion of HMOs and the diligence of bureaucracy.)
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To: svcw
Willkie was well liked. He was a successful businessman. Even a former Democrat. On top all the social issues like socialized medicine, being kind to commies, public housing ~ etc. He was very much like Mitt Romney.

HE LOST

Yup, there were already social conservatives at the time.

BTW, if you had folks working a farm at the time tell me what their positions were on PARITY for 1948 through 1960.

151 posted on 07/08/2012 2:12:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Colofornian

M_RM_N PR_PH_T

‘I’d like to solve the puzzle, Pat.’

The optics of the week long Romney vacation were all wrong for a prospective President of the United States.

But the optics of the week long Romney vacation were all right for a prospective Prophet of the Mormon Church.

After all, is there a more prominent Mormon in the world today than Mitt Romney? If Romney would be the richest President in American history wouldn’t he also be the richest Prophet in Mormon history?

Take a good look at the photo op of the Romney clan on the power boat. Does it look like a future god in embryo with all of his spirit children on the planet Kolob?

You Betcha!

Consider this: If Romney has to slug his way to the nomination at a brokered convention only to get clobbered by the MSM and Obama’s Chicago thugs in the fall campaign, where is the profit for the Mormon Church? There would be only loss and the threat of the Mormon Church being irretrievably broken.

Would a devout Mormon such as Mitt Romney rather be the POTUS [a ‘profane’ office of limited national jurisdiction] or Prophet [a ‘holy’ office of world-wide jurisdiction]?

Can there be a better poster child for the Mormon Church than Mitt Romney is today?

If Mitt Romney were to drop out of the POTUS race, release his delegates to vote their conscience in Tampa and assume the office of the Mormon Prophet, would the Public Relations of the Mormon Church be enhanced?

You Betcha!

Mitt Romney isn’t going to be the next POTUS.

Mitt Romney is going to be the next Mormon Prophet.

Stay Tuned.


152 posted on 07/08/2012 2:23:40 PM PDT by bigoil (Study Thy Nixon)
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To: Psalm 144

Works for me.


153 posted on 07/08/2012 2:36:57 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: bigoil
Mitt Romney isn’t going to be the next POTUS. Mitt Romney is going to be the next Mormon Prophet.

I'm all for that! His loyal following could swell mormon membership numbers all the way up to about 10 million in the US...still a small minority. They would all move to Utah, Idaho and Arisona.

Interesting post. Possible, but would the present heirarchy go along? Can't imagine that.

154 posted on 07/08/2012 2:41:57 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ok, just to humor I reread you statement.
Based on your statement of your refusal to vote for someone practicing islam, is by definition bigotry.
Personally, I don’t have a problem with that.


155 posted on 07/08/2012 2:47:31 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: greyfoxx39; bigoil

Going for the double, I think. Winning POTUS would secure the clerical spot too, and ANY national improvement would be pointed to as fulfillment of the Whitewashed Jackass prophecy. It would also swell the GOP ranks and the general population with the notion that credulous obedience is the American way. New serfs for the New World Order.

That is how I see it playing out, as Willard is scripted to win this. Hussein will go play in some UN sandbox instead, and the NWO torch will have been amicably passed even while the election show was running.


156 posted on 07/08/2012 2:48:25 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Government HealthControl. Uniting the compassion of HMOs and the diligence of bureaucracy.)
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To: svcw

My point was, you are practicing religious bigotry if you even bring up the religion of a candidate.


157 posted on 07/08/2012 2:54:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: x
I even campaigned for Goldwater in 64 ~ but in 1962 the School Prayer issue had already blown up. The Berlin Wall was up and there were lingering concerns over the Hungarian Revolution (and how it ended in failure). You might not want to think of anti-communism as a social issue, but most ordinary Republican voters did. They were not happy with the cowardice, as they saw it, at the top.

These three issues were not of major concern to the GOP-e or to Goldwater simply because they were either not relevant to getting anyone elected, or were simply too complex to work with.

It took us until Ronald Reagan to get a comprehensive Conservative in place who could stand behind anti-communism, pro-Americanism, fiscal responsibility, and getting the Supreme Court in order so we could roll-back their tom foolishness on the very personal issue of religion.

Of course, by that time the Court was slaughtering babies, which is probably why you've forgotten about the other issues where they screwed with the schools.

By the 1980s Goldwater had gone senile and began speaking out of turn about all sorts of things.

158 posted on 07/08/2012 2:59:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So.
Then practice it.
Religion is part of who people are, it is their core.
It should be discussed.
If it’s bigotry, then so be it.


159 posted on 07/08/2012 3:03:41 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: pallis
...If I wish to remain franchised this election, I have to accept a limited choice, Obama or Romney, or convince myself any other choice I make won’t help Obama

Technically speaking -- due to the electoral system -- people living in certain states are ALREADY "disenfranchised."

For example, if you live in WA, OR, CA, Nevada, Illinois, NY, NJ, Maryland, D.C. or some New England states, a vote for Romney won't help beat Obama in those states.

And frankly, if you live in most Western states; most Midwestern states; all Southern states (except FL)...your vote against Obama won't mean anything more...Obama stands 0% chance to win in those states.

So...if the argument would be consistent...you'd have to admit that "franchisement" ONLY exists in genuine swing states.

Do you confess that?

160 posted on 07/08/2012 3:06:35 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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