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Daughter of LDS Bishop Warns Against Mormonism and Romney Presidency ['Of two evils...neither']
Christian News Network ^ | Oct. 13, 2012 | Heather Clark

Posted on 10/17/2012 4:33:29 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: Ransomed
For instance, you are asking Christians to vote third party in places like NJ, CT, and Minnesota. Those are three rare blue states where Catholics actually voted against Obama in 2008, and will probably vote againsts him by more this time. It might not mak a difference, but with the third party for sure it won’t, in my opinion.

There's no "might" about it: There's no way Romney will take NJ, CT, or even Minnesota.

This is no different, btw, than those who accuse Virgil Goode/third party voters of "wishful thinking" -- that it would somehow "make a difference."

You are indeed engaging in "wishful thinking" if you think Romney could somehow take one of those three states.

This isn't only opinion-polling, but the actual votes brought to bear on POTUS elections in 2008, 2004, 2000, and the 20th century.

161 posted on 10/17/2012 7:41:45 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: headsonpikes
“Simpleton” ddoes not begin to define your utter witlessness.

Then what word WOULD you use; if you were speaking to my face?

162 posted on 10/17/2012 7:42:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Venturer
. I can see there is no reasoning with a real Romney hater.

You could at least TRY!

163 posted on 10/17/2012 7:43:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

The lesser of two evils...

Is judgement coming upon this nation no matter what?


164 posted on 10/17/2012 7:43:49 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
More tiresome attacks.

Then, by all means, leave the battlefield and declartion VICTORY!!!


 
 
Professor Robert Millet        teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted

 
 
Timeline...    Subject...
 
0:59           "Anti-Mormons..."
1:16           "ATTACK the faith you have..."
2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."
3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."


165 posted on 10/17/2012 7:44:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

And you claim to be concerned this is part of Romney’s agenda?


166 posted on 10/17/2012 7:44:49 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: headsonpikes
It should be followed by “fanatical”, however.

GOOD!

I at least get tossed into the same grouping that contains Romneybots!

167 posted on 10/17/2012 7:45:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PapaBear3625; Elsie
I'm not voting for a man to serve as my spiritual leader. I'm voting for a man who has the job of maintaining a safe environment to live, work, and raise a family, and to create a decent economic situation.

(And we all know that THE leader of the free world has absolutely nothing to do with needing qualities such as discernment, an ability to guard against deception -- vs. say, gullibility or vulnerability to deception...why, that quality only applies to "spiritual leaders"...) /sarc

168 posted on 10/17/2012 7:45:54 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Finatic
...bullpatties on this story.

It was sarcasm.

Kind of a mishmash of bits and pieces of MORMON rituals performed in the Temples.


http://www.lifeaftermormonism.net/forum/topics/can-someone-please-explain

169 posted on 10/17/2012 7:47:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

>> Do this 17 more times and you’ll have accomplished... WHAT?

False dichotomy, you tool of Satan. Get behind me!


170 posted on 10/17/2012 7:52:28 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: knarf

Well said.


171 posted on 10/17/2012 7:54:56 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: PapaBear3625
I don't see how being a Mormon would lead one into treason against the United States.

Why Joseph Smith Ran for President

“I would not have suffered my name to have been used by my friends on anywise as President of the United States, or candidate for that office,
if I and my friends could have had the privilege of enjoying our religious and civil rights as American citizens, even those rights which the Constitution guarantees unto all her citizens alike.
But this as a people we have been denied from the beginning. Persecution has rolled upon our heads from time to time, from portions of the United States, like peals of thunder, because of our religion; and no portion of the Government as yet has stepped forward for our relief.
And in view of these things, I feel it to be my right and privilege to obtain what influence and power I can, lawfully, in the United States, for the protection of injured innocence.”

Joseph Smith, History of the Church, 6:210–11.

172 posted on 10/17/2012 7:55:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Virgil Good is also pro-abortion. Wake up!! The man is a misleading, lying coward who only wants to take your vote or your money and leaving you with four more years of Obama.

No...I'd say the "L" word above -- or since I don't know your intent, perhaps you're just mistaken -- applies to you...and you've 100% shot any credibility you might have on this site with such a false "pro-abortion" accusation.

Per: OnTheIssues: Virgil Goode on Abortion:

Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Voted YES on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
Voted YES on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life. (Oct 2003)
Voted YES on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
Voted YES on funding for health providers who don't provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
Voted YES on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)
Voted YES on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)
Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)
Voted YES on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)
No federal funding of abortion, but no litmus test. (Dec 2000)
Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
Rated 100% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-life stance. (Dec 2006)
Prohibit transporting minors across state lines for abortion. (Jan 2008)
Grant the pre-born equal protection under 14th Amendment. (Jan 2007)

**************

In contrast, the very man you support, Mitt Romney, told CBS News in late August 2012 that he favors abortions for the wide-open, anything-goes reason of "health of the mother" ("health" of course being determined by the abortionist, and the abortion industry)...ALONG with OTHER exceptions.

He told Katie Couric dec of 07 that 'twas "OK" for parents of embyros to either give up their embryos for adoption -- or "donate" them to "research."

MA RomneyCare, with a Planned Parenthood rep permanently on the commonwealth oversight board as set up by Romney, has gone from $50 taxpayer funded abortions in that state to some that are 100% covered by such funds!

Wake-up! to your own accusations -- as applied to Romney!!!

173 posted on 10/17/2012 7:56:36 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: TonyInOhio
Then why has he allowed the Church of Latter-Day Saints to survive and thrive?<>I'd think a Catholic would KNOW this!
174 posted on 10/17/2012 7:56:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: .45 Long Colt

“I would love to hear him explain why he believes he is smarter than the writers of Holy Scripture”

Bang-on!

I’m still wondering why I should care who this man endorses... or Ross Perot either.

Honestly I couldn’t care LESS who endorses who.


175 posted on 10/17/2012 7:56:52 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: shalom aleichem

“Ross Perot endorsed Romney.

Your move.”

You’ve lost me... am I supposed to care about Ross Perot’s opinion?


176 posted on 10/17/2012 7:57:44 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: TonyInOhio
When it comes to rendering judgement on the faith of others...

It ain't about FAITH; but FALSE TEACHINGS.

Did you NOT learn from Catholicism that they MUST be exposed and expunged??

177 posted on 10/17/2012 8:00:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

I am saying to you that Virgil Goode knows full well he has NO shot at ever becoming president but he doesn’t care if he reelects Obama to four more years. There has never been a more pro-abortion president than Obama and you’re going to help reelect him. THINK!!


178 posted on 10/17/2012 8:01:47 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: X-spurt
I’ll pick the Mormon anytime.

Intolerant?

You make the call.

Possibly racist?

Maybe as well.

179 posted on 10/17/2012 8:01:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: truthandlife; All
The lesser of two evils...Is judgement coming upon this nation no matter what?

Yes.

#1: Peter said that judgment "begins" with "the household of God."

#2: And certainly, socially, we've invited it even apart from our political choices.

As somebody once aptly said, "If God doesn't judge America, He'll have to apologize to Sodom an Gomorrah."

#3: I simply think, that with what we've done in this political season, we've "fast-forwarded" it to a point of key divine provocation.

We've placed $ -- and with it the sanctioning of a rival "god" to THE God -- over denouncing false worship centers.

If you look at Exodus, Deuteronomy, Numbers -- and then the Kings and Chronicles books -- the most common theme that provoked God to the extreme was Israel's catering to false gods, and a series of kings' failures to remove false worship centers from a "front and center" role in their culture.

Here, in this election, we have now elevated and openly endorsed somebody who says "I am indeed a 'god' - in embryo -- and I will one day compete with THE God for worship, glory, reception of prayer, role as 'creator', etc."

180 posted on 10/17/2012 8:03:50 AM PDT by Colofornian
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