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To: JimSp

Jesus was speaking in general for all Christians to come, as well as the disciples in their time. I’ve seen more hate thrown at Joel Osteen on FR and other godly men, than anywhere else I’ve been online. It is a sad day that Conservatives, who claim to be Christians would try to destroy someone working for God’s Kingdom and encouraging the downtrodden as he does. God help them on Judgment Day.


24 posted on 02/07/2014 8:51:03 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
It is a sad day that Conservatives, who claim to be Christians would try to destroy someone working for God’s Kingdom and encouraging the downtrodden as he does.

AMEN!

30 posted on 02/07/2014 9:09:24 PM PST by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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I don’t want people encouraged, I want them saved


41 posted on 02/07/2014 9:33:00 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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“I’ve seen more hate thrown at Joel Osteen on FR and other godly men, than anywhere else I’ve been online.”

He is preaching untruth. Here is the proper response to what Osteen preaches from David Wilkerson :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9KUilKMDaY


44 posted on 02/07/2014 9:36:59 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: Kackikat

John Piper on the prosperity gospel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s24NKhgZ98


47 posted on 02/07/2014 9:47:02 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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....." Conservatives, who claim to be Christians would try to destroy someone working for God’s Kingdom and encouraging the downtrodden as he does".....

More like he's working for his own kingdom......he's simply a motivational speaker using religion to generate revenue ...he lives far far and above his so called flock....but then he does push the Prosperity Gospel. So for him he needs to look "Prosperous".....BTW It's not his money feeding the poor and downtrodden...it's those pockets he fleeces.


51 posted on 02/07/2014 10:18:18 PM PST by caww
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To: Kackikat
I admit that I was rather harsh towards Joel Osteen and his wife, but hadn't actually watched him and really didn't know much about her.

I have since had a change of heart about a great many things and regret my judgments. I have now watched maybe three months or so worth of his Sunday program and have gotten something of value out of all but one. (I have since apologized to a neighbor who likes him quite a bit for my past poor behavior.)

For the last few decades I've been paying attention, popular self-help psychology, found in books, magazines, tapes, CDs and seminars and taught by its many practitioners, have attracted legions of followers, but their rates of long term success rarely live up to their hype.

Though they are of value, I believe those that fail do so b/c they are incomplete and inadequate, as they ultimately don't address the true source of our distress, nor the true source of our healing. Many are a sort of emotional band aid, which does provide some temporary relief, but often little more.

Joel Olsteen's approach uses many of their methods and he can be quite entertaining. Like them, his counsel is practical advice for adjusting our point of view and attitude, but unlike them, his approach is from a Scriptural based point of view and appeal to God to heal us, our spirit and our soul.

I've come to believe that God uses him, same as He will use anyone who lets Him use their will and then gets out of His way, to speak to his audience, which would explain the emotional reactions I sometimes have.

In my case, I've come to believe these emotional reactions are the cracks in the now crumbling stonework that my heart has become encased in, finally letting in His healing Light.

Just one man's opinion and experience, for whatever that's worth.

52 posted on 02/07/2014 10:28:39 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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Please tell me you aren’t serious, you don’t have to dig deep to see Joel is a false prophet. He is misleading a lot of people. He’s working for a kingdom alright, just not the right one.


68 posted on 02/08/2014 5:26:04 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Kackikat

It’s sad when Christians hate. But it seems like some people scream “hate” where there is none. I will call out the error of Joel Osteen’s false teaching, but I certainly don’t hate him. My encouragement to you is to make sure you aren’t classifying opposition to his message as hate for the man.


99 posted on 02/10/2014 8:26:58 AM PST by JimSp
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