Posted on 03/19/2014 8:19:20 PM PDT by ealgeone
CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SECOND EDITION
PART ONE THE PROFESSION OF FAITH SECTION TWO THE PROFESSION OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH
CHAPTER THREE I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT
ARTICLE 9 "I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH"
Paragraph 6. Mary - Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church
963 Since the Virgin Mary's role in the mystery of Christ and the Spirit has been treated, it is fitting now to consider her place in the mystery of the Church. "The Virgin Mary . . . is acknowledged and honored as being truly the Mother of God and of the redeemer. . . . She is 'clearly the mother of the members of Christ' . . . since she has by her charity joined in bringing about the birth of believers in the Church, who are members of its head."502 "Mary, Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church."503
So where did I miss the mark on Mary worship?
Well see that's the thing I put my faith in God not a Church, I was raised Catholic but I don't really go anymore. I don't have a problem with anyone's religion as long as they follow the one important rule "don't push it on me", I will follow God as I see fit for me and everyone else may do the same.
Starting with your use of the word “unapproachable.” If He is so unapproachable, then why do Catholic believe that we consume His very Flesh and Blood at every Mass?
Here is what Yehova has to say about that:
Jeremiah 7:
16] Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee.
[17] Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?
[18] The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
[19] Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?
[20] Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, mine anger and my fury shall be poured out upon this place, upon man, and upon beast, and upon the trees of the field, and upon the fruit of the ground; and it shall burn, and shall not be quenched.
Jeremiah 44:
[15] Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying,
[16] As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the LORD, we will not hearken unto thee.
[17] But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.
[18] But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.
[19] And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men?
[20] Then Jeremiah said unto all the people, to the men, and to the women, and to all the people which had given him that answer, saying,
[21] The incense that ye burned in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem, ye, and your fathers, your kings, and your princes, and the people of the land, did not the LORD remember them, and came it not into his mind?
[22] So that the LORD could no longer bear, because of the evil of your doings, and because of the abominations which ye have committed; therefore is your land a desolation, and an astonishment, and a curse, without an inhabitant, as at this day.
[23] Because ye have burned incense, and because ye have sinned against the LORD, and have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, nor walked in his law, nor in his statutes, nor in his testimonies; therefore this evil is happened unto you, as at this day.
[24] Moreover Jeremiah said unto all the people, and to all the women, Hear the word of the LORD, all Judah that are in the land of Egypt:
[25] Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, saying; Ye and your wives have both spoken with your mouths, and fulfilled with your hand, saying, We will surely perform our vows that we have vowed, to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her: ye will surely accomplish your vows, and surely perform your vows.
[26] Therefore hear ye the word of the LORD, all Judah that dwell in the land of Egypt; Behold, I have sworn by my great name, saith the LORD, that my name shall no more be named in the mouth of any man of Judah in all the land of Egypt, saying, The Lord GOD liveth.
Source?
How’s it going?
>> “then why do Catholic believe that we consume His very Flesh and Blood at every Mass?” <<
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Because you deny the word of Yehova completely.
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Read Matthew 7:23
That is how you will be going.
You consume a wafer, nothing more, nothing less.
See post 24
From recent study, what I've read in the messages in True Life In God, the witnessed events throughout history, especially now, in our time, I think the truth goes beyond what you posted.
I never would have thought that, and rarely about the Virgin Mary beyond her Son, and then only at Christmas, but I've had a change of heart and thought about a lot of things.
Seems fine to me and I’m not Catholic.
My only gripe is with Islam.
Do people not have souls? If I am able to pray for you, or you for me, or me for the soul of my dead brother - then can not the soul of the unstained Mother of Christ also be influenced by our prayers?
To use another poster's term above, that is "dead end" theology.
"...Well, toward morning the conversation turned on the Eucharist, which I, being the Catholic, was obviously supposed to defend. Mrs. Broadwater said when she was a child and received the Host, she thought of it as the Holy Ghost, He being the "most portable" person of the Trinity; now she thought of it as a symbol and implied that it was a pretty good one. I then said, in a very shaky voice, "Well, if it's a symbol, to hell with it." That was all the defense I was capable of but I realize now that this is all I will ever be able to say about it, outside of a story, except that it is the center of existence for me; all the rest is expendable." -Flannery O'Connor
Do you understand “strong delusion?”
Do you understand Satan’s signs and wonders?
If you want to believe it he will let you believe it to your end.
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That is not my understanding of their adoration for Mary.
They revere her as the mother of Jesus. I do as well but, we all cry out to God and ask in the name of Jesus, His will be done.
No.
And if by “unstained” you mean sinless, you are in grave error. Mary needed a saviour just as much as you and me.
Flannery O’Connor is a lost soul.
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Don’t you have the Gospel of Luke in your Bible?
Read Luke 1:26 - to the end of the chapter, and read it carefully. Then go on to the story of the Visitation and Elizabeth calling Mary, the Mother of my Lord. (God)
Seeking intercession is beyond Adoration.
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