“No, say what’s what: ‘Look, Lord, I have this problem, in my family, with my child, with this, with that … What can you do? Now see here, you can’t leave me like this!’ (Did Jesus do this in the Garden of Gethsemane?)
What part of the, "thy Will be done" in the Pater Noster does this pope not understand?
I am not one who is an RCC apologist, by no means.
But I get what he is trying to say. He is saying prayer can be just talking to God, not always formal prayers in a service/mass structure. Personally I talk to God all throughout the day, He’s my God, but He’s also my friend, my best advocate. When I drive He’s there with me. He sees me warts and all, when I’m good and when I’m not. If I say something I need to be sorry about I say I’m sorry about it.
Doesn't sound "face to face" with a friend to me. In fact:
"Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God."
IIRC Moses was not allowed to enter the promised land:
"But the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you have not believed Me, to treat Me as holy in the sight of the sons of Israel, therefore you shall not bring this assembly into the land which I have given them.”
I think I'll have to go with what the Bible says, God have mercy on my Catholic soul.
This measna lot to me. I dealt with things that don’t make any sense, and sometimes I get angry at God, while loving him with as much as I can. This seems like a good instruction.
Did not Abraham debate with God about finding “rightous folks” in Sodom and Gomorah? That was what Pope Francis is trying to say in other words.
God has big enough shoulders, He can handle the tough questions. :)
Eh, keep in mind this is the same man who said Jesus pretended to be angry in the Temple.
Also Jesus gave us the wonderful parable of the widow vs. the unjust judge about the power of prayer.
Don’t really agree with this one. But an old Franciscan once said that it’s better to fight with the Lord than to ignore him.
-— What part of the, “thy Will be done” in the Pater Noster does this pope not understand? -—
Perhaps he understands, but you don’t understand him.
The pope is making an important and profound point in everyday language. He’s not addressing a group of theologians regarding the mystery of free will and prayer.
This method of speaking explains much of his popularity. He’s preaching.
If we stick with God's will, there's no need to pray...I always pray for my will and hope God agrees with it...
And he has, so many times...
Sorry all you naysayers, I love Pope Francis.
With evil like the Obama and the Krintons in the world
we need a outspoken man of God like him.
God is balancing the scales sending us Francis at this time.
Moses did ... why can’t we?
Obviously not as much as you.........I'm curious, why were you passed over for the position?
Thank-you Your Holiness for making my day with this wonderful preaching. God Bless.
I think some people are missing the point on this.
God said in Isaiah “Come, Let us reason together” and Paul states we should “come boldly before the Throne of Grace”. Yes, Moses and Abraham both challenged God in the right way to hold him to his nature, his word. I believe God wants that - He wants us to have total reliance on Him, to believe that we can take him at his word. This in no way should be taken that we are a. equal with God, or b. that we are more high and mighty than we actually are.
Just as Jacob wrestled with the Angel, I believe God wants us to be sincere in our grievances, anger, confusion, ALL emotions and reasonings. He KNOWS we’re limited in our understanding - that’s why He’d rather us be direct and ask him than to NOT ask him but walk around haughty and proud and ‘in no need’ of him.
Remember how Jonah was angry at God because he knew that God would have mercy on Ninevah? God didn’t say ‘How DARE you be angry with ME!’ - no, he instructed Jonah as a Father would his ignorant child.
“Israel” means to struggle with God.
God bless Pope Francis. I believe that He has a plan for this pope. There is a reason for this particular pope, at this very time in the world.