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Dust on the Hymnal: Pondering the Decline of Hymn Singing in American Denominations
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 6/1/2014 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 06/02/2014 1:42:10 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: AnAmericanMother

I am in Houston. The golden triangle for Texas shape note starts in Houston, goes to San Antonio then to Dallas and back down to the Houston area. Lots of singers.

If I go to Atlanta, I will give you a shout and maybe we can get together and sing some. My wife and I would love that.


101 posted on 06/03/2014 11:55:39 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: buffaloguy

If you hit Atlanta, PM me! We will show you the town and you can come to choir practice AND sing on Sunday (our choirmaster really doesn’t mind, he has been known to pass out sheet music to likely looking folks who made the mistake of sitting in the choir loft . . . ) It is the most relaxed choir I have EVER sung in. Tons of fun and really good music.


102 posted on 06/03/2014 12:42:14 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

One of my dream vacations is to go trout fishing in the Smokies and it might tie in well with singing with you.

Man, you are mining some rich lodes musically. What fun that must be. Can’t wait to get down there and join you.


103 posted on 06/03/2014 1:06:59 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: AnAmericanMother

I keep handing choir books to those of our congregation who sing excitedly. Most have held back at that time but many have shown up at choir practice the next week.

My wife and I are known as relentless recruiters for the choir. Actually well known as I found out last week.

hahahahahaha


104 posted on 06/03/2014 1:10:21 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: AnAmericanMother

I will PM you. Boy what an excuse to go to Georgia.

And we will love to go to the choir rehearsals with you and sing on a Sunday. There is a great vacation developing here.


105 posted on 06/03/2014 1:12:58 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: AnAmericanMother

Hey I got a brother lives in Winder, Ga can I come sing sometime, too?(My brother also leads his own church’s music ministry)


106 posted on 06/03/2014 2:03:51 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6
Choir practice is at 7:30 p.m. on Wednesdays, but we're about to break for the summer. We just show up at 9:30 a.m. on Sunday morning and grab the music and sing.

That being the case (no rehearsal) you probably need to be able to sight sing unless you are familiar with Renaissance polyphony, in which case you can probably fake it because we sing pretty much the Old Standards.

107 posted on 06/03/2014 3:51:58 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: buffaloguy

All Right! (wait til I tell our director that I’m recruiting over the internet!) :-D


108 posted on 06/03/2014 3:52:36 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: mdmathis6

Rehearsals start up again after Labor Day.


109 posted on 06/03/2014 3:53:51 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: mdmathis6

meh


110 posted on 06/03/2014 5:08:07 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: GreyFriar

“A ‘sheave’ is a bundle of wheat stalks that have not had the grain removed.”

The bundle is a “sheaf”; plural bundles is “sheaves”.


111 posted on 06/03/2014 5:10:25 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: MayflowerMadam; GreyFriar
"A 'sheave' is a bundle of wheat stalks that have not had the grain removed."

"The bundle is a 'sheaf'; plural bundles is 'sheaves'.

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I once knew a guy who thought they were singing "Bringing in the sheeps".  (Of course, the plural of "sheep" is "sheep".    That follows the same old pluralization rule as "the plural of goose is..." -- oh, never mind!)

112 posted on 06/03/2014 7:26:56 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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To: Heart-Rest
Here I Am Lord; Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing; I Come to the Garden Alone....just a few that I LOVE!

I heard a sermon about a decade ago on singing. The preacher had just buried an older man in his church. He had Alzheimer's. He knew no one’s name. IF he heard you sing one of the old church songs, he could sing it word for word! There was not a dry eye in the congregation.

My Grandmother and family spent Sunday afternoons congregating at one of their siblings homes where the kids played together and then in the late afternoon they'd sit on the porch and sing....no books, just by memory. When she was about 94 years old, she could no longer see more than a blur. At church she could sing every verse to every song!!! Okay, I've got a tear now!

113 posted on 06/03/2014 7:28:06 PM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: YouGoTexasGirl
Here I Am Lord; Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing; I Come to the Garden Alone....just a few that I LOVE!

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Yes, I love those hymns too.    "I Come to the Garden Alone" ("In The Garden") was my Mom's favorite hymn (followed closely in second place by "The Old Rugged Cross").    She always liked to sing harmony on those hymns.

If you get a chance, listen to some of these versions of a couple songs you mentioned, along with some other good old hymns.    You might also enjoy some of these versions like I do.


114 posted on 06/03/2014 10:16:17 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Does experience in acapella singing with a good strong pitch memory help? I sight read like I type...which is to say slowly, but seeing the notes and hearing the harmonies I catch on real quick.


115 posted on 06/04/2014 5:53:34 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: MayflowerMadam

What ever...the thee’s and thou’s are taken out...not the virgin birth!


116 posted on 06/04/2014 5:55:29 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6
Perfect! That should work all right.

The two motets I linked to above are two that we frequently sing. Scores scroll in the video, or you can print out a copy from cpdl.org. Try 'em out and see what you think.

What part do you sing?

117 posted on 06/04/2014 6:58:04 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Heart-Rest
The classic Kid Version Misheard in Sunday School. A classmate of mine at St. Philip's actually thought we were singing:

"Bringing in the cheese
Bringing in the cheese,
We shall come with George and them,
Bringing in the cheese."

118 posted on 06/04/2014 6:59:40 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I kind of missed this thread. To busy I guess. I hope I am not repeating things that are already said.

I do love the older hymnals. Songs with great meaning and deep thoughts are important to “teach and admonish” one another. Many of the “new songs” are anemic when it comes to teaching. Also, sadly many new songs begin to sound like vain repetition. For example saying “I exalt You” or “I will praise You” 15 or 20 times does nothing to exalt or praise God. If I am to exalt/praise Him then I must actually do it. Saying I’m going to exalt Him does not exalt Him. It would be like going to a funeral and saying “we bury you” over and over again. At some point you have to dig the hole and put them in it if you are going to bury them.

Don’t get me started on the new songs that sing our praises. As someone said (sorry I don’t know who to give credit to) they might as well be singing, “How great we are”.


119 posted on 06/04/2014 7:02:38 AM PDT by 728b (Never cry over something that can not cry over you.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Or the "Reverend" Fred G. Sanford's Divine Profit Church version:

Counting up the dough
Counting up the dough
We shall come rejoicing
Counting up the dough!

120 posted on 06/04/2014 7:02:56 AM PDT by dfwgator
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