Posted on 11/28/2014 9:44:39 PM PST by Steelfish
No attack, just a very interesting discussing on scriptures.
Still Paul was Jewish, no ifs, ands, or buts. True the tribes did split, but there is still that Jewish heritage which cannot be doubted, of Paul’s Jewish heritage.
God REVEALED the PLAN of SALVATION of the world by sending Jesus into the world, first to the House of Israel and then from there go to the further ends of the earth.
Chart of Early Church Fathers
Remembering the Early Church
The Apostolic Fathers, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus (Ecumenical)
The Early Church Fathers on the Scriptures: Prayer is Answering the Word of God [Ecumenical]
On the Apostolic Fathers
Fathers vs. the Evangelicals
The Early Church Fathers on the Scriptures: These Words are the Word of God [Ecumenical]
The Early Church Fathers on the Scriptures: The Two Meanings of the Bible [Ecumenical]
The Early Church Fathers on the Scriptures: Guide to the Discovery of Scripture [Ecumenical]
The Early Church Fathers on the Scriptures: Every page of the Bible is a Hymn to Christ [Ecumenical]
The Early Church Fathers on the Scriptures: The Four Gospels [Ecumenical]
The Early Church Fathers on the Scriptures: The Scriptures are one book in Christ [Ecumenical]
The Early Church Fathers on Scripture: The Nourishing Bread of Scripture [Ecumenical]
The Early Church Fathers on the Scriptures: Reading Scripture with the Early Church Fathers [Ecumenical]
Fathers of the Church
Abortion and the Early Church [Fathers] (Catholic & Orthodox Caucus)
Why do Catholics always talk about the Early Church Fathers (Apostolic Fathers)?[Ecumenical]
The Church Fathers' Marian Interpretation of the Old Testament (Catholic Caucus)
Writings of the Fathers of the Church
THE CHURCH FATHERS: A DOOR TO ROME (fundamentalist warns saying they sound too Catholic)
Were the Church Fathers Closer to Protestantism Than to Catholicism?
The Faith of Our Fathers
The Early Church Fathers on the Assumption [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
Look to the Church Fathers to Shed Light on Modern Problems, Writes the Pope
Origen: The Privileged Path to Knowing God Is Love
On Origen of Alexandria: He Was a True Teacher (April 25, 2007)
St. Clement of Alexandria: One of the Great Promoters of Dialogue Between Faith and Reason (April 18, 2007)
St. Irenaeus of Lyons: The First Great Theologian of the Church (March 28, 2007)
Early Church Fathers - Worship on Sabbath or Sunday
St. Justin Martyr: He Considered Christianity the “True Philosophy” (March 21, 2007)
Truly a Doctor of Unity (St. Ignatius of Antioch) (March 14, 2007)
On St. Clement of Rome -The Church Has a Sacramental, Not Political Structure (March 7, 2007)
Quotes from the Early Church Fathers
The Early Church Fathers on Baptism - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
The Early Church Fathers on Contraception - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
The Early Church Fathers on Justification - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
The Early Church Fathers on Mary’s Perpetual Virginity - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
The Early Church Fathers on the Immaculate Conception - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
The Early Church Fathers on Confession / Reconciliation - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
The Early Church Fathers on The Real Presence - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
The Early Church Fathers on Intercession of the Saints - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
The Early Church Fathers on Hell - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
The Early Church Fathers on The Primacy of Peter/Rome (Catholic/Orthodox Caucus)
The Early Church Fathers on The Mother of God - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
The Early Church Fathers on Mary’s Perpetual Virginity - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
The Early Church Fathers on Salvation Outside the Church [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
The Early Church Fathers on Purgatory - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
The Early Church Fathers on Apostolic Succession - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
Early Church Fathers on (Oral) Tradition - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
The Early Church Fathers on The Church (Catholic Caucus)
The Early Church Fathers
No, I am not substituting one set of man made doctrines and traditions for another. Years ago I went to Yahweh, thoroughly disheartened with all Catholic and Protestant teachings (I was a graduate of Sacred Heart Academy but baptized in the Shallowford Road Church of Christ). I said to the Lord very adamantly ‘I ONLY WANT TO DO WHAT JESUS DID” He started me on a journey of study and research for the last 25 years. My only criteria was that it had to say it in the Scripture. I respect everyone’s right to have opinions and ideas BUT to be incorporated into my daily walk with Yahshua it has to be written in Scripture. This weeds out many man made traditions and doctrines. See Jesus wasn't even the Messiah's name as the letter J was not invented until about 500 years ago so his name couldn't have been Jesus...and God is just a GENERIC name so that's not even the Father's name. Oh and it goes on and on...study yourself Scripture and church history...it's there...you will be amazed.
**A lot of Protestants ignore these early Christian leaders, preferring instead to believe that the history of Christianity began with Jesus and the 12 apostles, and then somehow skipped over 15 centuries to Martin Luther.**
To the detriment of many Protestants who post on FR.
**And once non-Catholic Christians start to read these writings of the early Church Fathers, they will soon discover that there were NO Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, Mormons, Episcopalians, etc., anywhere in the Early Church. Those traditions of men were all started centuries later, based on what people thought Jesus’ Church was all about, rather than on what it actually was.**
Amen!
I guess you didn’t read the entire article, correct?
**And once non-Catholic Christians start to read these writings of the early Church Fathers, they will soon discover that there were NO Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, Mormons, Episcopaleans, etc., anywhere in the Early Church. Those traditions of men were all started centuries later, based on what people thought Jesus’ Church was all about, rather than on what it actually was.**
THESE are the man-made religions.
And once again your post is non-believable because you post no live link or source.
Oh, I just saw one.
Please post them as live links, rather than buried in the prose.
Which she didn’t.
Check on the Nicean Council 325 B.C. where the Catholic church was cemented in it’s man made doctrines. If Yahshua came back today he would miss Mass on Sunday because His Sabbath is Saturday. He definitely would miss Christmas but would celebrate the Feast of Dedication as He did when He was here the first time. He could have a difficult time forcing him self to go to a Easter celebration as He would have celebrated Passover and the Feast of First Fruits when He resurrected. So things He instituted in the Torah that the church threw out in deference to their teachings.
The word “brother” was used to connote all cousins and others who held the Catholic belief.
Haven’t you ever read Paul?
Brothers and sisters,.................
Good grief, read the story of Stephen’s stoning. Paul, a Jew, was there persecuting Stephen and other Catholics.
Why do you keep yelling which your capital letters connote?
You are still a Catholic — baptized a Catholic —always a Catholic. You cannot erase the indelibale mark left on your soul. I bet you were confirmed too; another indelible mark.
You are simply and inactive Catholic at this time. You will come back to the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.
See this is where the confusion comes in...You must go back in History to see why Paul still claims to be a Benjaminite.
Revelation 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Freepers did not start the arguments, they started a long time ago.
Catholic belief is succinctly expressed in the profession of faith or credo called the Nicene Creed:
The Nicene Creed
I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.
I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
(At the words that follow, up to and including "and became man." all bow.)
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
No, Jesus revealed His Plan of Salvation to the House of Judah as the House of Israel was divorced and out of Covenant since 721BC. The House of Israel was taken away by the Assyrians and scattered throughout the world. The Prodigal son parable is all about the House of Judah staying at home with the Father and the House of Israel going out into the world but returning to the Father. We Believers are the returning House of Israel RENEWING the COVENANT, coming back into the COVENANT to be restored to our Heavenly Father because of the Atonement made for our sins by Yahshua on the Cross.
I totally concur with every line of the Creed...other than the 4th line from the bottom.
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