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‘Epoch-Making Turning Point’ from Conflict to Communion: LWF, Vatican Announce Common Liturgical..
The Lutheran World Federation ^ | 12/19/14

Posted on 12/22/2014 6:17:46 AM PST by marshmallow

(LWI) – Rev. Martin Junge, General Secretary of The Lutheran World Federation (LWF) says relations between the Lutheran and Catholic churches have reached an epoch-making turning-point.

Speaking during a panel discussion, held 18 December, in the Lutheran church in Rome, Junge emphasized that the relationship between Lutherans and Catholics was being transformed “from conflict to communion.” Precisely in a world “in which religion and faith are regularly portrayed and perceived as trouble makers,” he said it was a phenomenal testimony that the Lutheran and Roman Catholic churches continued to move “towards a profound communion that frees us to serve God and the world.”

Alongside Junge on the panel were, the president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity (PCPCU) Kurt Cardinal Koch, the Catholic representative of the United Evangelical Lutheran Church of Germany Bishop Karl-Hinrich Manzke, and the chairperson of the Ecumenism Commission of the German Episcopal Conference Bishop Gerhard Feige.

Junge and Koch took the opportunity to announce plans for a common liturgical guide in connection with the 500th anniversary of the Reformation in 2017, of which publication is scheduled for 2015. Looking towards 2017, the Lutheran - Roman Catholic material is intended to enable churches all over the world to review the 500 years of Reformation. The guide will follow on from the dialogue document From Conflict to Communion published by both partners in 2013, and transpose it into liturgical acts. The material will reflect the structure of this document with its triple form of penitence for the wounds mutually inflicted; joy at the insights and dimensions of the Reformation; and hope for unity.

The panel also discussed the question of what exactly was to be commemorated in 2017. “Not church division, nor the 500th anniversary of a church and certainly not any heroic actions,” Feige was.......

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To: xone
Scripture interprets scripture, takes care of the difficult passages...

ROFL........that's what they all say!

The "lib Lutherans" say the same.

Whom to believe?

You or them?

41 posted on 12/22/2014 2:09:25 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: NKP_Vet
Luther was barely out of the seminary when he started his antics against the Church. I’ve never understood why anyone would consider him as theologian.

You might pose that same question to our FReeper Lutherans. They will have a different read on him, to say the least. I found his bio on Google and there have been MANY books written about him.
He was also a PROLIFIC writer himself.

42 posted on 12/22/2014 2:22:56 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: marshmallow
The doctrine of Confessional Lutheranism is found in Scripture and the Book of Concord, any can access and read it. So it isn't made up from tradition like Catholicism and given a thumb's up from a panel of old priests.

FYI lib lutherans support abortion, homosexuality as normative, and the ordination of women. As a result, even a Catholic with little discernment can deduce they don't follow God's Word. So unless there is 'no' discernment, the choice is fairly easy to make as to whom to believe.

Like I said earlier, the lib lutherans and the trending Catholics under Francis should do well together.

43 posted on 12/22/2014 2:23:12 PM PST by xone
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To: Salvation

Yes indeed, a HUGE piece of news.


44 posted on 12/22/2014 2:35:23 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain; NKP_Vet
You might pose that same question to our FReeper Lutherans.

So, as a Catholic, do you take religious instruction from heretics?

45 posted on 12/22/2014 2:57:24 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: cloudmountain; Salvation
Yes indeed, a HUGE piece of news.

The bombing of Pearl Harbor was a HUGE piece of news.

46 posted on 12/22/2014 3:01:32 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: xone

The “Book of Concord” is man-made. Anyone can write his own “book”.


47 posted on 12/22/2014 3:03:34 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: cloudmountain
He was also a PROLIFIC writer himself.

Saul Alinksy was a PROLIFIC writer himself.

48 posted on 12/22/2014 3:05:52 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: cloudmountain

He just wants the Catholic liturgy to be [EVEN] more like the Lutheran’s. Back off, Frank.


49 posted on 12/22/2014 3:08:53 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

You know, of course, that the liturgy of the Lutheran Divine Service is based on the Pre-Tridentine Mass.


50 posted on 12/22/2014 3:18:09 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
You know, of course, that the liturgy of the Lutheran Divine Service is based on the Pre-Tridentine Mass.

Yeah, and that's what Bugnini said about JXXIII's Mass.

Both Luther and Bugnini were wrong.

51 posted on 12/22/2014 3:26:24 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: xone
The doctrine of Confessional Lutheranism is found in Scripture and the Book of Concord, any can access and read it. So it isn't made up from tradition like Catholicism and given a thumb's up from a panel of old priests.

I've yet to find a Christian group of believers whose "confession" is not "found in Scripture". Including the "lib Lutherans".

Clearly, it isn't self-interpreting.

FYI lib lutherans support abortion, homosexuality as normative, and the ordination of women. As a result, even a Catholic with little discernment can deduce they don't follow God's Word.

Yet they say that they do. They can plunge into Scripture and pull out quotes to support their viewpoint just like you.

And who are you to contradict them?

52 posted on 12/22/2014 3:37:31 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: Mr. Lucky

“Based on” — about like English is based on Latin and Greek. Lot of changes to make it contemporary.


53 posted on 12/22/2014 3:54:41 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: ebb tide
The “Book of Concord” is man-made. Anyone can write his own “book”.

Bounce it off the Bible....sorry that's right your tradition is more important. Enjoy your alliance with the libs, will give you at good look at what's coming to your org.

54 posted on 12/22/2014 4:54:21 PM PST by xone
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To: marshmallow
Clearly, it isn't self-interpreting.

'They' can say what they want, they have deserted God's Word. Now it takes a little bit of discernment to see it, but when you all take a pro-abort stance in the name of unity, you might see it. Good luck with the libs.

And who are you to contradict them?

Someone who follows Scripture. It really is that easy.

55 posted on 12/22/2014 4:57:33 PM PST by xone
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To: ebb tide

“Like Grant, Luther was a drunkard”.

And a terrible anti-semite.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/Luther_on_Jews.html


56 posted on 12/22/2014 5:18:08 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: xone

It’s your “org” that’s Lutheran. Look at the present and past of your “org”.


57 posted on 12/22/2014 5:22:13 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: xone
Someone who follows Scripture. It really is that easy.

That's a riot. Luther tossed what Scripture didn't agree with him. He put himself above the Holy Ghost.

58 posted on 12/22/2014 5:26:40 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: xone
Bounce it off the Bible....sorry that's right your tradition is more important.

Luther's heresies didn't bounce; that's why he made up own "bible".

59 posted on 12/22/2014 5:33:23 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

You are hooking up with the pro-abort/homo/women clergy, enjoy your former ‘enduring doctrine, especially with your boy Francis at the helm.


60 posted on 12/22/2014 5:37:24 PM PST by xone
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