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Evangelicals & the Eucharist (Part 1)
The Cripplegate, New Generation of Non-Conformists ^ | May 23, 2013 | Nathan Busenitz, professor of theology at Cripplegate's The Master’s Seminary

Posted on 01/28/2015 1:23:00 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: RnMomof7
Scripture is very clear that mankind is no longer made in the "image" of God..after the fall in the garden we lost the image of God

Finally!

I was beginning to think that no one else had noticed that SETH was made in Adam's image; in HIS likeness: Genesis 5:3

161 posted on 01/29/2015 10:07:15 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: roamer_1

You’ve got a great backhand there!


162 posted on 01/29/2015 10:11:03 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lupie

(Warn her about that crotchety ol’ Elsie; too!)


163 posted on 01/29/2015 10:12:08 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
>>“Anamnesis” has to do with GOD’s recalling, which is an infinitely more substantial reality than the function of the human brain we call “memory.”<<

Luke 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

Hebrews 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

Mark 11:2 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.

Mark 14:72 Immediately the rooster crowed the second time. Then Peter remembered the word Jesus had spoken to him: "Before the rooster crows twice you will disown me three times." And he broke down and wept.

1 Corinthians 4:17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

2 Timothy 1:6 Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands.

164 posted on 01/29/2015 10:12:27 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Arthur McGowan
You are not making any point by quoting words that Jesus did say.

Tell me about it!!

165 posted on 01/29/2015 10:12:35 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Can’t you tell the difference between JESUS and an ANIMAL?

Can’t you tell the difference between JESUS' blood and WINE?

166 posted on 01/29/2015 10:13:24 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
>>Can’t you tell the difference between JESUS and an ANIMAL?<<

Show me the differentiation made in Acts 15.

167 posted on 01/29/2015 10:13:34 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Arthur McGowan; CynicalBear
That is NOT the meaning of anamnesis.



 


'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'  


168 posted on 01/29/2015 10:14:30 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
The fact that it is worshiped is not proof that it is a fraud.

HMMMmmm...

169 posted on 01/29/2015 10:15:13 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Deleting the words of Jesus that you don't like.

HMMMmmm...


 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


170 posted on 01/29/2015 10:16:46 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Iscool

“It should be for their benefit. For here men do not bring a sacrifice to God through a priest, but the High Priest offers Himself as a sacrifice to God for the sake of men.”

^^But yet those of your religion claim that THEY offer the sacrifice of Jesus to the Father...Which of course is ridiculous...^^

False. In the Mass, JESUS offers himself to the Father. Jesus is the priest and victim.

“That Christ gives His blood to those redeemed by Him to drink is the strongest expression of the fact that He sacrifices Himself for men entirely, unreservedly, and completely. (Sasse 1985, 89-90)”

^^Nothing more than the musing of human philosophers...^^

Wow. You figured out that the writer is a HUMAN. That’s a real knock-down argument.

“To refuse to drink the blood of Jesus is to CLING TO THE OLD COVENANT AND THE OLD SACRIFICES, refusing to accept the life Jesus has given to us.”

^^Jesus told Paul to tell us to continue to avoid drinking blood...^^

The blood Paul was referring to was animal blood. Since an animal sacrifice is a sacrifice under the OLD TESTAMENT, the blood represents the life of the animal, which belongs to God. The Eucharist is the sacrifice of Jesus of himself, in which he gives his life to us and for us. Thus, his blood is poured out FOR US (as Jesus himself said at the Last Supper). Thus, unlike the blood of a sacrificed animal, the blood of Jesus BELONGS TO US. He gave it to us precisely to tell us that he has given his LIFE for us.

The OLD covenant has been replaced by the NEW covenant.

JESUS is not an ANIMAL.


171 posted on 01/29/2015 10:17:04 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: roamer_1

Thou shalt not eat Cheez-Whiz on your idols. It has to be in there somewhere.


172 posted on 01/29/2015 10:17:10 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Out of the abundance of the heart...


173 posted on 01/29/2015 10:17:16 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

So?

When did I delete those words of Jesus—from anywhere?


174 posted on 01/29/2015 10:18:12 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
The reference is to the blood of animals that had been sacrificed—as mentioned in the SENTENCE IMMEDIATELY BEFORE.

Nope:
For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
(Acts 15:28-29)
That's just a series of items strung together by a simple conjunction.  There is nothing grammatically, semantically, or contextually obligating an inference that only animal blood was prohibited.  

Peace,

SR

175 posted on 01/29/2015 10:19:52 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Arthur McGowan
He altered the words of Jesus. He changed them to something more to his liking.

Welcome to Catholic Tradition 101

176 posted on 01/29/2015 10:22:59 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lupie
...you are known for backing up your emphasis with scripture.

But; as we are told over and over: I use it wrongly...

177 posted on 01/29/2015 10:23:58 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lupie

But...

...at least I use it. ;^)


178 posted on 01/29/2015 10:24:24 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
When did I delete those words of Jesus—from anywhere?

Now that I have your attention; will you PLEASE tell me what Catholicism provides to me (That the Bible doesn't) that I MUST have to enter Heaven some day?

179 posted on 01/29/2015 10:27:10 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Such animated conversation taking place here.

Who broke the 'rule' about discussing politics or; GASP!; religion in polite company?

180 posted on 01/29/2015 10:29:43 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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