Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: CynicalBear

I just can’t reduce the Commandments to SUGGESTIONS, no matter how many stories I hear/read or how spiritually profitable they claim to be.

You do your thing. It’s your soul.


16 posted on 02/21/2015 8:24:20 AM PST by Loud Mime (Keep the Commandments; it's better than gambling on forgiveness.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies ]


To: Loud Mime

Nobody can keep the commandments.

Once you’ve broken one, you’re guilty of all.

Adam and Eve only broke ONE commandment to die, to experience separation from God.

Our only hope IS forgiveness, the judicial pardoning of all our sin.

You’d be far better off *gambling* on forgiveness than depending on your own righteousness, which is as filthy rags in the sight of God.

Forgiveness by God is a sure thing.


19 posted on 02/21/2015 8:49:58 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies ]

To: Loud Mime
>>I just can’t reduce the Commandments to SUGGESTIONS, no matter how many stories I hear/read or how spiritually profitable they claim to be.<<

You may want to read Paul's letters as it pertains to laws and grace.

>>You do your thing. It’s your soul.<<

Yes, it is. And it's safe in the hands of Jesus with the guarantee of the Holy Spirit.

24 posted on 02/21/2015 9:20:04 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies ]

To: Loud Mime

The ‘faith without twitching a muscle’ crowd is actually quite athletic; triple jumpers, one might say.

Jumping over the commissions of the Lord: Matt. 28:19; Mark 16:16; Luke 24:47; and John 20:23.

Jumping over Acts 2:38 (and really, most of that book).

Jumping over the examples in the epistles that reminded those folks how they were born again, such as in Romans:

Rms 6:3; “Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?”
4. “Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:....” (That’s certainly not Spirit baptism, because the Spirit is life.) “..that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the GLORY of the FATHER, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
5 “For if we have been planted together in the LIKENESS of his death, we shall be also in the LIKENESS of his resurrection.”

“But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being THEN made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.” 6:17,18

They high hurdle over the efforts of obedience that Abraham performed, BEFORE God first commended him as faithful in Gen. 15:6

As if that’s not enough, they pole vault over the witness of the Lord Jesus Christ:

Let’s just look in Matthew for a few examples:

8:5-13 “There CAME unto him a centurion, BESEECHING him..”..you know the rest, where Jesus says. “..I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel”.

9:2 “They BROUGHT unto him a man sick of the palsy.....and Jesus SEEING their faith....”.

9:21 The woman with the issue of blood: “If I may but TOUCH his garment......Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole”.

15:21-28 The Canaanite woman: “..CAME she, and WORSHIPPED....., “Truth Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their master’s table. Then Jesus answwered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith...”.

Your thoughts?


31 posted on 02/21/2015 9:52:22 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies ]

To: Loud Mime; metmom; CynicalBear
I just can’t reduce the Commandments to SUGGESTIONS, no matter how many stories I hear/read or how spiritually profitable they claim to be.

They are laws for those that choose to be saved by them

Romans 2:12 All those who have done wrong without the law will get destruction without the law: and those who have done wrong under the law will have their punishment by the law;

Romans 3:19 Now we know thatwhatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God.

Just as Paul had to confront Peter..Rome must be confronted with this truth

Gal 2:16nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.

The law was given because no man can keep it PERFECTLY ...and as James tells us in 2:10For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.

So one lie has made one guilty of adultery, murder, idolatery etc.

So why would God give us laws that he knows we can never keep??

As Paul says he never would have known he was a sinner without the law.. because its purpose was to show us that we can nevr save ourselves

Gal3:24Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. 25But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

So my friend the saved are no longer UNDER the law..because Christ kept it perfectly for us ...does that mean the law is ignored by the saved..NO.. it still calls us to seek God when we fail.. but we know we have one that payed the price for that on the cross

If Catholics want to believe they will be judged by their law keeping..they are all damned to hell for no one can keep it..

36 posted on 02/21/2015 10:12:54 AM PST by RnMomof7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies ]

To: Loud Mime

Who says they’re suggestions? They are commands. The difference, however, is that men are not saved by their works, but by grace; and it is by grace that we obey God, as the fruit of our salvation, but not the cause of it.

That’s all. No one denies the necessity of good works.


51 posted on 02/21/2015 2:39:30 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson