How Can the Church Tell a Gay 16-Year Old that 'God's Will' for them Is a Life Void of Sex, Romance?

Christian Post ^ | 03/15/2015 | BY MATT MOORE

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Frankly, I'm getting pretty frickin' sick of having to make long lists of vapid qualifiers in a vain attempt to dodge the defamatory shibboleths of the left and their cultural myrmidons on the right.

I use the term "homosexual". I don't like anything about it, but many here think I'm a defender. What i try to do is get into discussions about Biblical concepts and the nature of God's Will and His Love - along with the end result of Jesus' death and resurrection to wash away the sins of the world.

Some are so hung up on the perversions of homosexuality and other gender "orientations" that they totally miss the point.

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The demons erase your name and call you by your sin.

The Lord erases your sin and calls you by your name.

Beautiful Mrs. Don-o - simple and true.

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I don't like anything about it, but many here think I'm a defender.

Have you ever considered the idea it might be because you walk, talk, and swim like the proverbial "duck?"

It is beyond question there is a vigorous movement to normalize homosexuality, and postures such as you adopt show little to no effort to oppose it.

I am more than willing to carry on the kind of Biblical discussion you speak of, but I have to ask: "if you were wrong, how could someone prove it to you?" And that is a serious question. If you have not determined what it would take to prove your position wrong, you won't recognize it even if it is presented to you.

Furthermore, how can you expect to be taken seriously when answering opposition with banal and supercilious riffs like "I feel sorry for them because...etc."

That kind of doctrinaire condescension is usually reserved to adolescents who mistake their parents ignorance of "popular culture" as "ignorance by definition."

I submit to you that the whole "can homosexuals be saved" question, as it is posed by moderns, is as disingenuous and self-serving as the muslim "acceptance" of Jesus as The Christ. Sure, the words are the same, but those words disguise vastly different meanings.

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Wow! You may know a bit about how I talk, but haven't a clue about how I walk/swim, yet you insinuate that you do.

There is a push to normalize homosexuality and all the various hedonistic variations of pervert sex and it sucks. If one believes the Bible, one knows that this, and all the other evils of the world cannot be stopped - God has spoken and we will degenerate into a cesspool before Jesus returns to set things right. :: This is why I try to have the discussions I "instigate" here. You think I need to look at whether I may be wrong, yet you seem to surmise you are absolutely right, yet "am more than willing to carry on the kind of Biblical discussion you speak of".

I believe that, since we cannot stop the evil that will multiply, by God's Word, we should then look at ways to carry the Word to everyone who m ay need to hear it and to do so without rancor. I guess that's not very Christian of me, but I also note that many righteous Christians seem to also be self-righteous self-deceivers about their own purity that they feel they can do God's job and judge and condemn. I usually try to refer them to the story of Jonah, but even then they don't seem to grasp the connection.

Have a great day - you and I aren't likely to get into any useful Biblical discussions so there's no sense in our ripostes to continue.