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Tolerance is over
WDTPRS ^ | March 31, 2015 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 03/31/2015 9:18:37 PM PDT by NYer

cultural revolution 02The world is going nuts. I have often felt a bit like Cassandra, but … Cassandra was right.

Here is another take.

From the pen of John Zmirak at The Stream with my emphases and comments:

The expected Supreme Court decision imposing on 50 states an entirely newunderstanding of marriage, and the frenzy of hatred that gay activists have stoked against Indiana for trying to shelter religious believers from crippling lawsuits should wake us to a cold and stark reality: The age of tolerance in America is vanishing before your eyes. The question is how Christians and other people of faith and good will are going to respond.

Let’s break this down in stark and simple terms: Not only were gay activists willing to overturn an act of Congress (the Defense of Marriage Act) on spurious grounds; they also wish to force their libertine idea of marriage onto voters in each of the 50 states, voiding dozens of laws on an issue that has always rested with the states. [So, it is not just an issue of sodomy.  This is a constitutional issue.]

Not satisfied with that, these activists want the full force of the regulatory state to compel every single American to affirm and accept the delusion of same-sex “marriage,” under the same civil and criminal penalties that now forbid discrimination by race. [BUT… the “gay” thing is nothing like the civil rights issues of the 60’s.  Comparing the “gay” thing and race is like comparing apples and carrots.] A famous case was a 70-year-old Christian florist who declined to decorate a gay wedding, and was crushed by a successful lawsuit and the full force of the ACLU’s legal team. She was one of the Brave New Law’s first victims. She will be far from the last.  [That’s for sure.]

These activists use the power of city governments (as in San Francisco) to try to intimidate isolated Catholic schools into abandoning Christian teaching on sexual ethics. Such zealots corrupt the academic authorities who grant accreditation in order to financially cripple schools such as Gordon College that maintain Christian “morals” clauses as part of their hiring policies.

cultural revolution 04Those who defend the reality of marriage, including even unbelievers who defend freedom of religion and association, are not simply wrong — they are “bigots” and “haters” who deserve to be fined, boycotted and bankrupted; [Crucifige! Crucifige eum!] to lose their jobs like Brendan Eich, the ex-CEO of Mozilla, and face financial ruin — as Elton John hopes to break Dolce & Gabbana, and [follow the trajectory] as Apple CEO Tim Cook hopes to break the entire State of Indiana. Politicians are joining in, with the Connecticut governor, and Seattle and San Francisco mayors, banning official travel to Indiana.  [It goes from bakers and florists, to schools to entire states.  What’s next?]

As Austin Ruse points out, states such as Indiana are not giving Christians a pass to broadly discriminate against gays. Such religious freedom laws “deal with the very narrow question of whether vendors can be forced by the state to participate in religious ceremonies that violate their own religious consciences.

Given the fanatical response to a modest bill virtually identical to a federal law upheld by courts and bills on the books in twenty other states, [QUAERITUR…] how long before the call comes out for the “bigots” to be imprisoned? The First Amendment won’t protect us, if leaders like Hillary Clinton have their way; in public statements she followed President Obama in replacing the Constitution’s “free exercise” with “freedom of worship.”

The implicit message shouldn’t be missed: Say what you want in church for an hour every Sunday, but the rest of the week belongs to us.Your homophobic beliefs deserve no more protection than the religious use of peyote.

Scary.

Get your heads into that mental place where you will be able to face the persecution that is coming.  You will be vilified, in especially venomous ways, even within the Church by catholics seeking to twist the Church into an instrument of social re-engineering.

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TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: gaystapo; homosexual; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; lgbt; liberalagenda; marriage; sodomandgomorrah; ssm; tyranny
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To: NYer

PRAY for the CONVERSION of ALL to CHRIST!


41 posted on 04/01/2015 3:53:59 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

See, this is what you failed to understand. You ceded the premise of the argument in the first place. THAT is why you’ve lost.

The Constitution is silent on the issue of marriage. That was by design. The Founders never dreamed that it would become an issue for the Feds. But by and large conservatives demanded it do so.

Well, you got what you wanted. Don’t like it much, do you.

L


42 posted on 04/01/2015 4:03:55 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Are you sure about that?


43 posted on 04/01/2015 4:05:22 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

Yep, I am.


44 posted on 04/01/2015 4:06:24 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Frankly, I do not fail to understand. I get it.


45 posted on 04/01/2015 4:11:02 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

I’m glad to hear that. Lots of folks around here don’t.

Have a pleasant day.

L


46 posted on 04/01/2015 4:17:28 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: laplata

America is suffering from 56 MILLION DEAD BABIES.....KILLED by their MOTHERS.....and 52% of the American people VOTING FOR MORE DEAD BABIES!!!


47 posted on 04/01/2015 5:05:10 AM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NYer
Once this showed up, it was obvious the Age of Tolerance was over; they were now out for blood:


48 posted on 04/01/2015 5:31:46 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

No, they would kill us if they could.


49 posted on 04/01/2015 5:42:52 AM PDT by sport
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To: sport

They would be sending us to the ovens ... and not as pastry chefs.


50 posted on 04/01/2015 5:56:00 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
We laugh at Liberals. They would Imprison Execute us if they could.

No further comment necessary...

the infowarrior

51 posted on 04/01/2015 6:05:12 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: NYer

“Tolerance is over”

Sounds good to me.


52 posted on 04/01/2015 6:17:27 AM PDT by Leep (Ronney/McCain 2016!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Sorry, you have the independent and the dependent variables confused. People will enter into any type of relationship that pleases them. In some societies one or more of the parties may be in the relationship against their will. Some relationships produce children. Only some of these relationships qualify as “marriage” as God defines it.

Some, but not all of these relationships are the building blocks of society. We see communities where a woman has 6 children by 5 different men, that the children grow up more often in poverty, dependence and even prison. I would reject that such relationships are any sort of foundation to a society that we would want.

Beginning with interest in eugenics by progressives, states have attempted to regulate private relationships and to impose restrictions on who can marry.

Having said that, notice that no state attempts to restrict the conception of children. At the very moment that young people must apply for a license to marry, their friends are cohabiting and conceiving children without fear of being arrested. Few “hippie communes” with feral children were ever raided by police.

No law is going to stop random copulation by drunk youth, and the resulting conceptions. People who insist that government has a role in marriage are fooling themselves and being enablers for State power that it never should have had.


53 posted on 04/01/2015 6:29:07 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: NYer; zot; Alex Murphy; Salvation; Gamecock; Biggirl

Yes, the homosexual lobby and their anti-Christian secularist/communist/democrat party allies are out to destroy all aspects of Christianity and what is has provided for Western Civilization; and to destroy the family structure as well. I heard much talk about Indiana’s passing the legislation that makes religious belief a legitimate legal defense on my long drive yesterday.

It is interesting that the homosexual lobby and its allies was apparently already prepared with their smear campaign against Governor Mike Pence and the state of Indiana. They, especially the Democrapts must really be scared of Pence having a chance of winning the Republican nomination.

Please note that the Indiana bill does NOT mention homosexuals or any group, only that one’s personal religious beliefs are grounds for defense in a lawsuit. An American Indian tribe’s lawsuit to get to use Peyote in its religious worship is the bases for this law and it is based upon the Religious Restoration Act, backed by Chuck Shumer, passed by a Dem controlled House and Senate and signed into law by Bill Clinton. And Obama voted for an identical law when he was an Illinois state senator, a law that is still in effect in Illinois.

Yep, we Christians, regardless of “modifier” we may use, are the target of the anti-Christians.


54 posted on 04/01/2015 6:30:39 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: sport

Got news for you, Americans are ARMED to the teeth. More likely a revolt would happen instead.


55 posted on 04/01/2015 6:35:49 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

When?


56 posted on 04/01/2015 6:36:49 AM PDT by sport
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To: infowarrior

Fight back will happen first before anything else.


57 posted on 04/01/2015 6:38:04 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: sport

When “push’ comes to “shove”.


58 posted on 04/01/2015 6:38:46 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

If they shove any harder, they will have to use a D8 Cat. Anyway, I will believe it when I see it.


59 posted on 04/01/2015 6:40:50 AM PDT by sport
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To: theBuckwheat

BTTT!!


60 posted on 04/01/2015 6:43:49 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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