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Can Fallen Man Do Anything to Please God?
Monergism ^ | 4/18/2015 | John_hendryx

Posted on 06/14/2015 11:09:03 AM PDT by RnMomof7

Can Fallen Man Do Anything to Please God?

Question: Can fallen man do anything to please God? Can the natural man make choices all the time for things that are good and evil?

Response: All fallen, unregenerate human beings are endowed with many of God's common graces. God has blessed all men with a conscience and the capacity to promote virtue and civil righteousness. It is abundantly clear that many beautiful aspects of the world we live in have been brought forth by those which are unredeemed by God's regenerative grace. God has gifted natural men and women with the skill to create beautiful music, make profound works of art, to invent intricate machines and do countless things that are productive, excellent and praiseworthy. But even these "good things" are not done purely to glorify God. i.e. the source of natural man's affections and motives for doing things come from a polluted well.

Fallen man's many good works, even though in accord with God's commands, are not well pleasing to God when weighed against His ultimate criteria and standard of perfection. The love of God and His law is not the unbelievers' deepest animating motive and principle (nor is it his motive at all), so it does not earn him the right to redemptive blessings from a holy God. The Scripture clearly implies this when it states "...without faith it is impossible to please Him." (Hebrews 11:6a, NASB) and "whatever is not from faith is sin." (Romans 14:23)

So then even his "virtue" is considered evil in the sight of God. His purpose for doing good works are not from a heart that loves God. Being unspiritual, that is, without the Holy Spirit, "... men do not rise above themselves" (Calvin) But now through our justification and regeneration in Christ, we are enabled, for the first time, to be pleasing to God on the basis of Christ's work.

"Those who are in the flesh cannot please God." - Romans 8:7

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Quiz: If "Those who are in the flesh cannot PLEASE God" as Romans 8:7 declares, and "And without faith it is impossible to PLEASE God." (Heb.11:6) then how can those in the flesh have the faith necessary to PLEASE God? (Answer: 1 Cor 2:14, 1 Cor 2:12 & John 6:63, 65)



TOPICS: Apologetics; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: grace; salvation; sin; theology
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1 posted on 06/14/2015 11:09:03 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

I’ve just always accepted that people who do really nice and descent things are good people and God is pleased.
My God’s not as harsh as yours :)


2 posted on 06/14/2015 11:13:39 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: RnMomof7

3 posted on 06/14/2015 11:18:17 AM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: dp0622; RnMomof7; Mark17

You’ll be lovingly caressed into Hell


4 posted on 06/14/2015 11:19:08 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

I always thought God decided that :)


5 posted on 06/14/2015 11:21:02 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: dp0622
Nope ... YOU decide .. here and now ... where you want to be

"Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved"

6 posted on 06/14/2015 11:25:13 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

Now that is true. I stand corrected.


7 posted on 06/14/2015 11:28:06 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: knarf
You’ll be lovingly caressed into Hell

In your personal opinion.

8 posted on 06/14/2015 11:31:56 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

Nope ... scripturely concluded ... see above


9 posted on 06/14/2015 11:36:51 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

Paul’s words. In his opinion.


10 posted on 06/14/2015 11:41:25 AM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: Da_Shrimp

Paul’s words by the leading of the Holy Spirit


11 posted on 06/14/2015 11:42:52 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: dp0622; RnMomof7; Mark17; knarf; humblegunner

Everyone may be finding out soon if we pleased God or not. Surely it’s not with our country’s treatment of His Word, his chosen people, and our lukewarm churches. http://www.patburt.com/


12 posted on 06/14/2015 11:45:38 AM PDT by Maudeen
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To: knarf
Sez Paul.

Interesting how the Church in Ephesus is praised in Revelations for rejecting false Apostles and Paul himself says that all the Asian churches have rejected him, don't you think?

13 posted on 06/14/2015 11:46:46 AM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: RnMomof7; NYer; Salvation

Well for starters they can become Catholic


14 posted on 06/14/2015 11:51:37 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga
Well for starters they can become Catholic

So pleasing God is conditional on what Church you belong to ?

Got a Catechism for that ?

15 posted on 06/14/2015 12:00:32 PM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: RnMomof7

He can repent.


16 posted on 06/14/2015 12:01:37 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: RnMomof7

Well, it does say that we will be judged on things like feeding the hungry...clothe the naked...” When did we see you hungry...when did we see you naked...”


17 posted on 06/14/2015 12:01:58 PM PDT by bike800
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To: RnMomof7

YES, THEY CAN ACCEPT JESUS AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOR.

THE FAITH OF THAT ACT PLEASES GOD.


18 posted on 06/14/2015 12:04:59 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: Maudeen
Surely it’s not with our country’s treatment of His Word, his chosen people, and our lukewarm churches.

God isn't going to judge me collectively, or by the actions of others.

19 posted on 06/14/2015 12:06:54 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: bike800
Well, it does say that we will be judged on things like feeding the hungry...clothe the naked...” When did we see you hungry...when did we see you naked...”

nope...That is a prophetic Parable dealing with the distribution of rewards at the 2nd coming... note the sheep and the goats were already separated when the rewards were given ... The Goats were not rewarded

20 posted on 06/14/2015 12:07:28 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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