Posted on 07/04/2015 4:04:32 PM PDT by NYer
The chairman of the theology department at Fordham University has gotten marriedto another man.
The New York Times, which up until a few years ago, declined running wedding announcements involving same-sex couples, reported that J. Patrick Hornbeck II married Patrick Anthony Bergquist Saturday at St. Bartholomews Episcopal Church in Manhattan. The ceremony took place June 27, just a day after the US Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage nationwide. That would not have been necessary legally, since New York State has allowed gay "marriage" since 2011. But the ceremony was conducted before the Episcopal Church in America voted this week to allow same-sex "marriage" rites in its churches.
When asked whether Fordham was concerned about having a professor of theology whose lifestyle choice is in opposition to the teaching of the Catholic Church about marriage, a spokesman for the university said Hornbeck has the right to get married.
While Catholic teachings do not support same-sex marriage, we wish Professor Hornbeck and his spouse a rich life filled with many blessings on the occasion of their wedding in the Episcopal Church, said Bob Howe, Fordham's senior director of communications. Professor Hornbeck is a member of the Fordham community, and like all University employees, students and alumni, is entitled to human dignity without regard to race, creed, gender, and sexual orientation.
Howe emphasized that same-sex unions are now the law of the land, and Professor Hornbeck has the same constitutional right to marriage as all Americans.
Hornbeck, 33, teaches medieval and reformation history at Fordham. He graduated from Georgetown. His mother is an administrative assistant at Brophy College Preparatory, a Jesuit high school for boys in Phoenix. Bergquist, 35, is director of children, youth and family ministries at St. Bartholomews, where the couple "married."
An automated email response from Hornbeck indicated that he would "be away from my email altogether from June 27
until July 5."
In 2014, Hornbeck participated in a symposium at Fordham titled Who Am I to Judge? How Pope Francis Is Changing the Church.
In the last 18 months Pope Francis has taken the Catholic world by storm, Hornbeck in promotional material for the symposium, which was to focus on the future of Catholicism as well as examine recent public statements from the pope on subjects that range from the role of LGBT persons in the church, to the restructuring of the Vatican Bank, to unmarried couples and divorce.
American Catholics and their church have not been on the same page for some time, said Hornbeck. But now the pope is opening up space for dialogue.
Meanwhile, a Catholic school in Macon, Ga., is facing a federal discrimination lawsuit from a former teacher whose employment was terminated in 2014 after the school found that he would be legally marrying his same-sex partner, the Cardinal Newman Society reported.
Wow, just wow.
“Do you actually think you are the only religion that’s being criticized?...”
I don’t think I’m a religion at all. I’m a person. The very fact that you think I am a religion when I am actually a person only highlights the problem.
You used the word Anti-catholic...not me..therefore that is what I addressed.
Now that the dodge is over...how about a response to what was written.
Vlad, laziness is when someone makes a statement without sourcing it.
However, thank you for the link.
You make plenty of errors. Let’s look at a few:
“Sexually assaulting a minor should have sent these pathetic and deranged beasts men to prison!”
Many were sent to prison. And?
” ....shuffling priests from one parish to another, depositing them in homes for spiritual healing and renewal, and doing everything to keep the sordid details under wraps....hundreds and hundreds of abused victims who were prey to these despicable predators !”
Some dioceses - some bishops - did that. Most did not. And?
“Your church says you cant be a woman and a priest”
Every historic Church says that. Every single one. Scripture also makes it pretty plain too.
“and you cant be a married man and priest, ....”
Well, that’s false. I know three or four married priests, for instance.
“But you can you be a child sexual predator or a child molester and a priest for decades upon decades and still remain employed working with children and families..around the world no less!”
That did happen - but really doesn’t any more. And none of that had anything to do with the teachings of the Church. You, for instance, post nonsense online. Is that a failing of yours or your sect?
“So tell us again why you’re victims.”
I said nothing about victimhood - EVER. I mentioned anti-Catholicism. And you’re exhibiting it in post after post. You’re only proving me right. The fact that you can’t even see the difference again only shows the problem. Apparently there’s no circumspection at all with the anti-Catholic lot.
“You used the word Anti-catholic...not me..therefore that is what I addressed.”
No, it isn’t what you addressed. You mentioned the phrase once or twice in your post and never once actually addressed it. Instead you essentially went on a rant about clergy sexual abuse. Now who was talking about that between the two of us? No one. So you never did address anti-Catholicism.
“Now that the dodge is over...how about a response to what was written.”
What was written has nothing to do with what came before it. Why on earth do I have to respond to a rant about a completely different topic? Look back at the post you were responding to. What were we talking about? Yeah, the three stooges! The post wasn’t even directed at you! This post of yours is the sort of post hat comes with anti-Catholicism.
“Vlad, laziness is when someone makes a statement without sourcing it.”
Nope. When I make a statement like that it is ALWAYS based on facts. ALWAYS.
“However, thank you for the link.”
And, remember, that took ten seconds of searching with google. To not do that for oneself is laziness.
Then I'm sure you saw this as well:
http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2009/04/luthers-teachings-on-bigamy-and.html
Which one of you IS it?
“Then I’m sure you saw this as well:”
I sure did. And Lohse is still Lohse: German, Lutheran, well known author and researcher. And beggarsallreformation is still not Lohse.
And the fact that you found that website means you could easily have found what I posted. Laziness. I was right all along.
With unwarranted speculation like that I can see why the Catholic Church history is mostly made up.
A “church historian” putting that kind of speculation out if true is indicative of the false history of the Catholic Church.
I see desperation in your posts all the time. Must be a point of view standpoint ey?
That appeared to be desperation.
Three days late. I guess you were doing your business in the woods all that time? Luther had that problem too.
Facts must be in the eye of the beholder right vlad? Bwahahahahaha!
Thank you!
It looks to me like Luther lives rent free in some people’s heads. I know when I was a catholic, they always bad mouthed him. I don’t know a whole lot about him, but maybe he didn’t like the lifestyles of many of them. That is why I got away from it. I didn’t much like the immoral lifestyle I was involved in either.
OH, and yes I was doing my thing in the woods. Collecting firewood for my smoker! Great hams, bacon, smoked sausage, and smoked fish!!
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