Posted on 09/23/2015 2:54:03 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
As a visitor to the United States, Pope Francis faces a minor challenge: His English isnt so great. Over the course of the trip, hell give 18 speeches, and only four of them will be in English; hell mostly use his native language, Spanish, to give homilies and addresses.
But at Wednesdays mass in Washington, D.C., at which Francis will canonize Father Junipero Serra, hell add another linguistic twist. The main prayers of the service, along with the celebration of the Eucharistthe part of the service when people take communionwill be in Latin.
Latin! This is an exclamation-mark-worthy fact for a few reasons. Its very unusual, said Father John OMalley, the Georgetown University professor and author of What Happened at Vatican II. Its not unheard of, but it doesnt make much sense, if youre in an English parish, or a Spanish parish, to do it in Latin.
[big snip]
...Thats why its so interesting that Francis has chosen to include Latin in his D.C. mass:... Hes the first pope in 50 years not to have participated in the Council, OMalley said. Thats good, because hes not fighting the battles of the Council.
The mass that will be celebrated in D.C. on Wednesday is not the pre-Vatican II mass. The service will include English, Spanish, and several other languages, according to a Vatican spokesperson, and the pope wont be following the Tridentine liturgy....
More likely than not, the decision to use Latin in the mass is a matter of comfort: The pope isnt very good at English and hell already be speaking a lot of Spanish, so the mass offers an opportunity to incorporate another language into this visit. But its a small reminder that no move the pope makes come without complicated historyand symbolismattached.
(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...
Prescinding from religion, the Tridentine Mass is sublime performance art.
Actually, I concluded in 11th grade that God’s language is Trigonometry.
Wow! That was incredible!
Thanks for posting it!
I lived through the change to English, and the priest facing the congregation, at a vulnerable age. After nineteen-hundred and some odd years, I came along and everything changed. Bad timing on my part. It did shake my Faith a bit.
Well, the pope is from Latin America.
Many of us can read, speak and chant Mass Latin, after all, it is printed in both languages side by side. It is easy to see the cognates and it is easy to pronounce. The three major religions all have a liturgical language, ours is Latin.
I have a pic with a priest friend on a jet ski.
Thank God Martin Luther disintegrated into 30,000 different brands of Protestantism that many of its scholars and theologians have converted to Catholicism leaving behind the fools stranded on ships that accept married gay ministers and the tenets of Joel Osteen and other hucksters.
You’re welcome.
Full disclosure - It is my privilege to sing in the Gregorian Chant schola at my TLM parish.
We don’t often get to sing Mass IX though - usually we do Mass VIII (de Angelis) which is beautiful but a bit over-exposed.
Thank you so much for that.
It was beautiful.
And as a bonus, other videos listed on the side, will give me pleasure as I listen to each one.
Thanks again, James
It’s called the LATIN rite for a reason!
I used to sing it to my firstborn when I was nuRrsing him, and my adopted son when we would rock in Mom's Big Rocking Chair. What a wonderful memory of peace.
>>Thank God Martin Luther disintegrated into 30,000 different brands of Protestantism
That’s an often-repeated lie. Its more like 200 actual divisions. Your stat assumes that each non-denominational church is a different “brand of Protestantism”.
all I remember is puella pukra .. or something like that
>>So humankind was ready for Jesus Christ, but not for a German monk? Your view makes no sense whatsoever.
You don’t understand the work of Christ. He didn’t bring an intellectual understanding of god. He brought God himself. He brought Grace and delivered the Holy Spirit. That changed man forever, but even the Spirit-led man had to exist in a world of paganism that required a strong, centralized political church. Note that even that church split several times before the Reformation, so division was not an invention Luther.
IN fact, he did not split the church at the Reformation. It was the Roman Church that murdered (or more correctly, had papal-controlled secular leaders murder) Reformers and eventually the Roman Church expelled them all. Then, a short time later, that same church admitted that it was wrong and ENACTED many of Luther’s reforms.
And how, pray tell, can you possibly line that up with sola scriptura?
<<” ...or what happens when you dont make it a caucus... “ >>
Mercy. After Mr. Robinson went to all that trouble..... Thanks for pointing out the natural feeding of anything but the sheep, here. Should have been a caucus. In spades. I would post, but blood sport is a bit too much for anyone but the cool kids, who put this crap up on open forum.
puella pulchra == pretty girl
I sense that God is starting to bring unity back into the Church by bringing home those who have searched for holy truth.
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