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Our Christian Daughters Potentially Subject to Selective Service Registration
Bible-Literalist Writings ^ | February 3, 2016 | Robert E. Patenaude, Th.D.

Posted on 02/06/2016 4:36:00 PM PST by John Leland 1789

An Open Letter to Independent Baptist Pastors

in the Indiana 9th Congressional District.

February 3, 2016 (Revised)

Our Christian Daughters Potentially Subject to Selective Service Registration

Dear Pastors:

At some point you will have to develop a genuine conviction from the Scriptures on issues related to (1) Christian women serving in the Armed Forces; (2) Christian women serving in combat roles; (3) Christian women being required by federal law to register for Selective Service (register for the draft).

American women have pushed their “rights” to serve in military functions alongside men, including in combat roles, to the point that now top Generals and others in Washington, DC are recommending that all American women be required to register for the draft at age 18 (draft age remains 18 to 25 years old).

Pastors, how will we counsel families who want to teach their daughters and granddaughters to be Titus Chapter 2 women? What about Christian families who have trained their children to build Biblical homes and families? The world and the devil want to destroy your church families, their children, and their children’s families.

The mind set of people in high places in Washington has obviously come to conclude, “Many women want to be deployed with men in combat, so all women must be made subject to it—this is equality.”

We provide for you here two current Internet web sites which give a good idea as to how many people in Washington and elsewhere are viewing this subject:

http://www.examiner.com/article/should-women-have-to-sign-up-for-the-draft-military-officials-think-so?cid=sm-ip-facebook-020216-7.30pm-WomenInTheDraft

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/generals-women-register-draft-36665774

The Selective Service System exists to provide the U.S. Army with adequate numbers of combat troops when necessary in time of war. There has been no draft since 1973, but the Selective Service System has been left in place in case it is needed in future armed conflicts.

The Selective Service System does not exist to provide nurses or office workers, but only to provide ground combat troops (although even ground combat troops often must cook, do medical tasks, drive vehicles, etc.). Many American women have decided they want to be in combat duty with men, and some women’s organizations have also pushed for the rights of women to serve in foxholes alongside men. Military generals are now therefore saying, “Okay, women want to serve in combat, we should make it a requirement for women to also register for the draft—this is equal treatment.”

It is our firm belief from the Scriptures that all of this flies directly in the face of sound Biblical Christian teaching on the family, home, womanhood, and motherhood. We preachers must take a stand.

My wife and I have four daughters. Two of our daughters are still young enough to be subject to registering for the military draft if the Congress is soon pressured sufficiently to change the Selective Service laws to include females. We also have, thus far, four granddaughters. Three of them would be subject to having to register for the draft.

We have been following this issue for twenty years. We have on file responses from elected representatives who served up to twenty years ago and are out of office now, including U.S. Representatives Lee Hamilton, Baron Hill, and Mike Sodrel. None of these believed we would ever see women in combat, so they also scoffed at my suggestion that one day women could be required to register for the draft.

But now we are actually hearing top military generals recommending to Congress that women from 18 to 25 years of age be required to register for the draft. Congress must be the body to change the Selective Service law to require women to register. The Pentagon nor the Selective Service System can put this into practice without Congress.

But(!) Congress is required to change federal law to allow women to serve in combat roles, too, according our congressman’s military issues spokesman, but it is being done without any change in law. That’s right! It should actually be illegal still to deploy females in combat roles or on front lines. Are the Armed Services are breaking the law? They get around this in discussion by saying things like, “Women are just driving trucks for the soldiers, they are not actually in combat.” Of course, they are dressed for combat, equipped for combat, trained for combat, armed with the same weapons as the men for combat, in the same combat vehicles on the same battle field, some of them maimed or killed alongside male combat soldiers. Some have been taken prisoner by the enemy! But according to a Washington staffer for U.S. Rep. Todd Young (R-IN) named Andrew Terp, “The women are not classified as being in combat, they are just driving the trucks or the Humvees.” All reading this letter know that this is simply subterfuge! This is lying! This is a way to worm around law and decency for political correctness!

Pastors! What will you say when young women, including young mothers, tell you that they were forced to register for the draft? What will you preach about family, home, motherhood, and childrearing, when and if young women and young mothers in your church tell you that they have been drafted into the Army and will serve in the infantry? What will you say when you know that godly young women will be forced to hang up their modest clothing and don combat uniforms and gear just like men?

You don’t have to tell us that many young women from independent Baptist churches are already voluntarily enlisting in the Armed Forces, that many are already dressing in camouflage battle dress just like men and undergoing combat-related training. They are part of the reason that Generals have come to think this is normal and so women should also be subject to any potential draft. Thanks a lot, girls(!)—you set an incredibly good Christian example! No, you have not!

Yes, even professing Christian girls, even many from our independent Baptist churches, have enlisted in the modern, politically correct Armed Forces and have abandoned their Christian modesty, example, and discretion. For whatever reason—college money, financial income, a career—they have damaged the next generation already with their young lives by failure to live Biblically. They also damage the nation at large in its Christian heritage. Much of this has resulted from failure in pulpits to consistently teach the saints what the Bible says about family, home, womanhood, motherhood, childrearing and training, purity, personal Christian witness, and many other subjects. Some times good teaching and preaching is simply ignored by families or young people, or rebellion against the Scriptures and preaching occurs.

The many thousands of women now trying to be just like men in the Armed Forces are the impetus and force behind the politically correct attitudes in the Pentagon, and now my own daughters and granddaughters, and yours, could be in serious conflict and danger. Think of your calling and your pastoral office. You will have to preach the Bible to families and young people through this potential threat upon Christian families and young women.

We urge you, Pastors, to explain these dangers to your church. These are not political issues; these are BIBLE issues—Christian family issues. We also urge you to begin a writing campaign to your federal elected representatives and try to prevent any change to the Selective Service law(s) that require women to register for Selective Service (the draft). If you fear to write letters because of your church has 501(c)(3) status, you could request Christians in your church to organize a letter-writing effort separately from the church, officially.

If you or any members of your church would like to have model letters to elected representatives on this subject, we will be glad to provide some. If you or your people write letters of your own and would allow us to have copies, we could pass them along to others as models.

Pastors, let’s not allow Washington to further damage our society in this way, or make it all the more difficult to raise Christ-honoring families with children available for Christ’s service.

Feel free to contact us with regard to our continued research and communications with elected officials. My mobile phone number is [Withheld] Our email is baptistcommittee@nym.hush.com or bcoc@pamphleteernet.com

Thank you for your kind attention for the sake of our daughters, families, our posterity, and our nation

In the Surety of His Blood,

Robert E. Patenaude, Th.D.

Philippians 1:6; 2:13


TOPICS: Activism; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bhodod; christians; conscription; draft; militarywomen; women
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To: BenLurkin
Is this satire ?

I don't think so; likely about Independent Fundamentalist Baptist women leaving the bubble and picking up common sins or customs ...

41 posted on 02/07/2016 10:53:23 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: onedoug
We defend your and your granddaughter's right to do anything you have mentioned.

What concerns us is a current mind set being voiced, in so many ways, in Washington today that concludes . . . . .

"Many women WANT to leave their homes and serve in the military, so ALL women should be FORCED to register for Selective Service."

I trust you can see the difference.

There are still millions of Christian and other families across the nation, the daughters and young mothers of which express their patriotism by being in the home, strengthening the institution of the home and family (which we believe also to be a strong defense for American society), bearing children throughout their childbearing years, and raising the next generation of upright preachers, missionaries, statesmen, and soldiers.

42 posted on 02/07/2016 12:07:07 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

We gave women the vote. We created the birth control pills, No-Fault divorce, child support penalties, and alimony for women to be able to sleep around like they think men do. We put them in pulpits, then fighter planes, then warships, and now we will let them serve in front-line combat roles.

They rule over men in the workplace, church, the military, and home.

It’s a little late for our Christian sensitivities to keep them out of the draft. It’s time to good Christian women to say, “Whoa girls” because they don’t listen to men anymore. Let them learn that equality carries responsibilities.


43 posted on 02/07/2016 12:31:48 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92
"It’s a little late for our Christian sensitivities to keep them out of the draft."

There are still millions of Christian families for whom our "Christian sensitivities" it is NOT too late," because we don't operate on "sensitivities," we operate on a written revelation called the Bible.

With whom you keep company, we do not know. But there has always been a Christian heritage and tradition of women in the home, raising godly children for the benefit of society.

For the sake of modern societal change agents, to force these Christian women to abandon their Christian practice would be a travesty, even criminal.

Just as an illustration, there are 3,135 Christian churches and societies the members of which are exempt from all compliance to Obamacare. I posses the entire list, provided to me by U.S. Senator Joe Donnelly (D-IN). These 3,135 groups of Christians are exempt because of their "Christian sensitivities," just to use your words. This demonstrates that Congress can, in fact, exempt members of Christian groups from new mandates of law that violate the conscience of Christians.

44 posted on 02/07/2016 1:02:54 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

I completely agree.

Thanks.


45 posted on 02/07/2016 1:09:53 PM PST by onedoug
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To: John Leland 1789

>>This demonstrates that Congress can, in fact, exempt members of Christian groups from new mandates of law that violate the conscience of Christians.

That is some good news. Then we should support the rest of them getting registered. The 3000+ Christian groups can get the exemption.

Feminism has ruined this country. It’s time they learned the consequences. Remember that we need to register women because a huge number of young men are not eligible for military service. Many were raised by “single” moms without the benefit of a fathers example or discipline.


46 posted on 02/07/2016 1:21:16 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: kearnyirish2

“...they still too often retreat to less-demanding part-time careers without performance metrics like schoolteachers.”

Like my sister that I wrote about yesterday. She took an “overload” schedule (6-7 classes a semester) her last year of college so thst she could get a public school teaching job before certification testing came into play. She did. She scored her part time job with full time benes.

I very highly doubt she would have passed the math section of any standardized test, then or now.


47 posted on 02/07/2016 8:05:41 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
I'm completely against women being put in combat roles. But if they are going to be granted "equality" in this, then the faster way to reverse the madness starts with women being required to register for the draft.

Kind of like saying the only way to make progress on getting kids off drugs is to give them the opportunity to ruin their lives and/or OD - with our help.

And you say i put out red herrings....

Disturbing how many think the best way to fix something is to ensure it becomes as broken as possible - while ignoring that the trends of going down into the sewer are sometimes mitigated a bit from time to time but none have really been reversed.....root, root, root for the evil side because we ain't got nobody that can walk on water......

48 posted on 02/08/2016 3:47:05 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I can’t believe most young teachers today are passing any kind of test for math; they are hopelessly incompetent with it. Here in NJ teachers were vocally opposed to Common Core, and the recently-released results show why: They’ve been giving grades that were not reflective of students’ abilities, and now the scam has been exposed.

Grades are irrelevant; every parent has the smartest students in the school.

The “diploma mill” online schools are designed to boost teachers’ pay without coursework or learning; they just pay a few thousand dollars to immediately tack on several more thousand dollars (due to the union work rules). Play Trivial Pursuit with teachers, and you’ll be shocked at who is teaching young people today.


49 posted on 02/08/2016 4:19:51 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Yep, you’re right. How can you learn from people that don’t know anything? And then it’s a “surprise” when the kids know nothing. And the answer to fix this is always more taxes.

It’s up to parents (good luck finding many sets of actual Mom & Dad who know enough and care enough) to teach their kids, period. Or at the very least, fill in the gaps that the “teachers” miss.

Diploma mills: The “college” that my sister “earned” her Master’s at is such a farce that the city where she teaches in doen’t hire people thst graduated from there anymore; they actually haven’t in ~10 years. When a city school district that’s >>thisclose<< to going into state receivership won’t touch you, that’s really bad. Trivial Pursuit with that crew would be akin to playing with one eyed, drunken chimps. Yet, once “you’re in” in one of these part time workfare “jobs”, you’re in pretty much forever. And the taxpayers get to foot the bill. Yay...


50 posted on 02/08/2016 4:54:50 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: trebb
Too many people will view women being in combat units, but only if they want to be, as an acceptable/good-enough situation. If women are faced with the prospect of forced service (which is only fair under the circumstances), people are more likely to oppose this whole thing in general.

If common-sense had any influence over the people making these decisions, it would never, ever have come to this to begin with. But here we are. If women don't object to this change because of being drafted, the next chance to repeal this madness will only come after we "find out" what the Israelis found out.

51 posted on 02/08/2016 10:09:29 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: John Leland 1789

Not mine. If Obumagabe or his minions come for my daughter they will be hurt.


52 posted on 02/08/2016 10:11:44 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I didn’t ask for it and I’ll fight anybody that tries to impose it on my daughters to the death.


53 posted on 02/08/2016 10:15:42 AM PST by Theophilus (The GOPe are dealers. The Marxist Democrats are duelists.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

That whole system is killing NJ.

As I understand it, one of the big online “colleges” that advertises on TV a lot accepts everyone - and as a result smart employers won’t touch the “graduates”.


54 posted on 02/08/2016 4:04:08 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

MA, too.

That’s good that employers of all types are catching on that these BS “colleges” are worthless. They really are.


55 posted on 02/08/2016 4:18:08 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Simple short essays (on any topic) quickly separates the wheat from the chaff in terms of screening employees; illiterate people are being given degrees for nothing.


56 posted on 02/08/2016 4:21:55 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Great point!!!

Kind of hard to BS not being able to string together a few coherent paragraphs on a topic.

That’s a great “prerequisite”. Good call!

In years past, HS diplomas were given out as “participation awards”, that practice has now creeped into undergraduate and graduate degrees. The teachers/professors get still paid; their students ultimately pay the price.


57 posted on 02/08/2016 4:28:55 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Thanks; I found it useful ever since many years ago I realized that people that speak ghetto English aren’t just speaking with an accent or dialect - they are functionally illiterate. I used to find the examples I came across as humorous, but stopped laughing a long time ago. For example, what do you do with someone who uses ‘s to indicate plurals? Five cat’s and three dog’s. Or how do you use someone who types in all lower case letters, and when you point out that proper nouns and names have to be capitalized, simply types in all caps because she doesn’t even know what that means?

I suspect many low-skilled employees were victims of either welfare reform or having their children “age out” of benefits; they never intended to work, and (no kidding) haven’t seen a book since high school.


58 posted on 02/08/2016 4:38:35 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

It’s frigging brilliant!!!

The usage of “text speak” further diminishes grammar too.

LOL
lol
l8r

It’s here to stay.

Add in the welfare component and there’s your permanent, no-skill constituency. Ripe and ready to pick for Democrat votes.


59 posted on 02/08/2016 4:55:49 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I’ve heard other people describe “text speak”, and while I’ve used some for my infrequent texts my co-workers (and myself) are too old to fall victim to that - I work with no millennials.


60 posted on 02/08/2016 4:59:25 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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