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Vatican bans cremation ashes scattering in new guidelines
BBC ^ | 10/25/16

Posted on 10/25/2016 9:08:06 AM PDT by sparklite2

It said the Church could not "condone attitudes or permit rites that involve erroneous ideas about death, such as considering death as the definitive annihilation of the person, or the moment of fusion with Mother Nature or the universe, or as a stage in the cycle of regeneration, or as the definitive liberation from the 'prison' of the body".

The guidelines reiterated that Catholics who chose to be cremated "for reasons contrary to the Christian faith" must be denied a Christian funeral.

The Vatican also stressed that "the Church continues to prefer the practice of burying the bodies of the deceased, because this shows a greater esteem towards the deceased".

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1 posted on 10/25/2016 9:08:06 AM PDT by sparklite2
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Even though cremation is,I believe,now allowed by the Vatican I find it to be quite barbaric on many levels.I've asked the executor of my estate to bury me rather than cremate.I could go on...but won't.
2 posted on 10/25/2016 9:13:00 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: sparklite2

This is not new. I’ve always hear ... since the Church started allowing cremation ... that scattering the ashes was forbidden.


3 posted on 10/25/2016 9:28:01 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: sparklite2

Damn! I wanted to be scattered over the Executive Parking Lot of my former employer.

Make those SOB’s scrub me off of their Beemers!


4 posted on 10/25/2016 9:42:55 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sparklite2

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5 posted on 10/25/2016 9:45:11 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: sparklite2

I was asked to give an eulogy at a funeral mass ( yes I realize it’s not normally permitted but anyway it happened and the priest was extremely gracious complimenting what I said). So leaving that aside for a moment, the family then invited the priest, a few other close friends, and me to their home When we got there, I learned the deceased ( a wonderful, righteous person) was cremated ( another violation of traditional church teaching but which is now permitted ) and — and— there he was — his ashes at least- in a little box up on the fireplace mantle. I admit I was freaked out but it was done, so be it. What came next was absolutely ash-tonishing though. Turns out there were three boxes of decedent ashes up there. Flanking my friend were the family’s beloved former pets’ remains. Two white rats. To this date, I am without words -—


6 posted on 10/25/2016 9:56:25 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I actually would prefer having my body put up
in the crotch of a tree where the creatures of
the air could peck my flesh, but the neighbors
probably wouldn’t like it.


7 posted on 10/25/2016 9:59:30 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: faithhopecharity

My daddy rides with me in my truck’s glove box.


8 posted on 10/25/2016 10:01:14 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68
I actually would prefer having my body put up in the crotch of a tree where the creatures of the air could peck my flesh...

I,for one,am very glad that my parents and other loved ones are buried...and buried near me.I occasionally visit them and talk to them.I hope that people will someday visit me once in a while...not every day certainly (or every week).

9 posted on 10/25/2016 10:05:19 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: sparklite2

The Apostle Paul says we are a vessel - when the vessel breaks (dies) we are no longer in it but with Yeshua where to be absent from the body is to be with Yeshua. What difference does it make if you turn to ashes in a half hour or a couple of years in the ground. There is no one in cemeteries.


10 posted on 10/25/2016 10:05:22 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Ambtion Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: tet68

I see. Ok with me if it gives you comfort (not speaking for any churches, of course). But Please don’t tell me about any pet rats! That was the part of the entire episode that freaked me out, ha!

Albeit yes, rats are God’s creatures and he created them and blessed them and found them Good. However, they still freak me out, ha!


11 posted on 10/25/2016 10:09:35 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: sparklite2

The dispersing of ashes has been prohibited ever since the ban on cremation was lifted.


12 posted on 10/25/2016 10:10:17 AM PDT by G Larry (Avoiding the Truth-Hillary's only expertise)
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To: sparklite2

I am donating my body to a medical school and my cremated remains will be buried later. Better to use my corpse to train doctors than to just bury it at considerable expense to my family.


13 posted on 10/25/2016 10:13:46 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: sparklite2

Why should I believe anything these people say? At best they are confused


14 posted on 10/25/2016 10:15:04 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (When the MSM wants your opinion, they will give it to you)
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To: SkyDancer

Cemeteries are an affirmation of the truths of the Faith. Even after death, the body has a dignity greater than other physical objects because it is one element of the body/soul composite that is man. It is the body that was baptized, received the Eucharist, entered into Matrimony. The body, after Baptism, is the temple of the Trinity.


15 posted on 10/25/2016 10:16:57 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: al_c
I’ve always hear ... since the Church started allowing cremation ... that scattering the ashes was forbidden.

Maybe they've seen the last ten minutes of The Big Lebowski


16 posted on 10/25/2016 10:19:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sparklite2

I’m claustrophobic. That’s why I’d rather be cremated and my ashes spread.


17 posted on 10/25/2016 10:20:53 AM PDT by willk (everyone)
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To: Arthur McGowan

So the Trinity is inhabiting a dead body.


18 posted on 10/25/2016 10:24:09 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Ambtion Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: sparklite2

When I was a kid living in Rochester, NY, I remember seeing them dig up a cemetery with bulldozers so they could put a new expressway in. That was when I decided I was going to be cremated when I died so the same thing wouldn’t happen to me. I guess I’ll be going to hell, because I told my kids to scatter my ashes with those of my cats when I’m gone.


19 posted on 10/25/2016 10:32:14 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: tet68
Chuangtzu said, "Above ground, kites and crows eat you. Below ground, bugs and worms eat you. Can you give me a reason to pick one over the other?
20 posted on 10/25/2016 10:33:37 AM PDT by snarkpup (Hillary gets flak because she's being exposed; Trump gets flak because he's over the target.)
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