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Pope: Eternal Damnation "Is Not a Torture Chamber", but Being Eternally Distant from God
AsiaNews ^ | 11/25/16

Posted on 11/25/2016 3:22:25 PM PST by marshmallow

Never talk with the devil, he is a "liar" and "swindler", "seeking our ruin" and for "this will be thrown into the abyss." If "we open our hearts", as Jesus asks us, and we do not go our way, we will have "joy and salvation."

Vatican City (AsiaNews) - Eternal damnation "is not a torture chamber," but distance for ever from God, from the "God who gives happiness". But if "we open our hearts," as Jesus asks us, and we do not go our way, we will have "the joy and salvation” said Pope Francis at Mass this morning in Santa Marta, inspired by the reading from the Book of Revelation. In the last two days of the liturgical year, in fact, the Church fulfills the reflection on the end of the world.

The Pope’s homily focused on the day’s reading from the Book of Revelation that describes how the angel seizes the serpent, chains it up and throws it into the abyss which is then locked and sealed. He said the serpent or devil is thrown into the abyss “so that it would no longer lead the nations astray” because it is the seducer. “He is a liar and what’s more is the father of lies, he generates lies and is a trickster. He makes you believe that if you eat this apple you will be like a God. He sells it to you like this and you buy it and in the end he tricks you, deceives you and ruins your life. ‘But father, what can we do to avoid being deceived by the devil?’ Jesus teaches us: never converse with the devil. One does not converse with him. What did Jesus do with the devil? He chased him away, he asked his name but did not hold a.......

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TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Theology
KEYWORDS: afterlife; hell; popefrancis
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To: marshmallow

He is correct. HELL is the absence of God, for eternity.


21 posted on 11/25/2016 3:56:41 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: marshmallow

Oh Geez, what are all those poor S&M folks going to do now?


22 posted on 11/25/2016 4:02:26 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (???? It dissappeared.)
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To: Celerity
I’m with you here - I have been taught this, and I believe it wholly.
I know what things look like when God is not present or revered. We get things like that woman beating that baby. We get boardrooms full of people talking calmly about euthanizing babies and the elderly.
That is hell.

If we were brought up a Catholics we KNOW what we are supposed to do and how we are to live.
We were also given FREE WILL...to choose Jesus or not.

Priests STILL do exorcisms.
Euthanizing Murdering the elderly and aborting murdering God's newest and most innocent souls have always been wrong and EVERY Catholic/Christian knows that.

Even Muslims don't believe in abortion. They love all their children, no matter how damaged they might be.

I remember the "Exorcist". [Based on a true story.] Satan had promised the boy TEN LEGIONS in hell.
The possessed girl was Hollywood's idea.

SAD that so many Christians are WITHOUT Jesus here on earth, isn't it? [Rhetorical]

23 posted on 11/25/2016 4:06:11 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: marshmallow
This is what I was taught in theology class. Hell and death mean being separated from God. The descriptions of torture are simply an illustration of how bad that separation is.
24 posted on 11/25/2016 4:07:14 PM PST by Varda
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To: HLPhat

Thank you for posting the truth. Is separation from God, the one who gives all good things, hell? Yes. But we also have description of it in the Bible and what the Pope said is not biblical.

I honestly wish that people, including the Pope, spent more time reading the Bible. There is nothing the so-called “non-existent” devil wants more than to separate people from the Bible. If he can do that, he can run any deception, such as this one, and people will fall for it. Then the greatest offensive weapon we have against him, the sword of the Spirit, the Word of God, would be gone.


25 posted on 11/25/2016 4:07:26 PM PST by Waryone (2 Chronicles 7:14; praise God for His great mercy!)
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To: marshmallow

Is the Pope Catholic?


26 posted on 11/25/2016 4:13:05 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (President Trump is coming, and the rule of law is coming with him.)
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To: marshmallow

As beings made for God, is not separation from Him pretty much a “torture chamber”?


27 posted on 11/25/2016 4:14:11 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: marshmallow

Mark 9:43

If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.


28 posted on 11/25/2016 4:14:19 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: marshmallow; All

I could make sense out of the Pope, not that I accept what he is saying, if he was trying to win votes for office.

Are we to expect better from the cardinal who replaces him, who probably helped to elect him?


29 posted on 11/25/2016 4:16:25 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: freepertoo

Amen


30 posted on 11/25/2016 4:22:39 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: freepertoo

Everything good comes from God, from His grace, which means that we do not in any way desearve it. Away from Him is not one good thing, only perpetual hell, which is eternal suffering beyond, way beyond our imagination.


31 posted on 11/25/2016 4:37:54 PM PST by Bellflower (Dems = Mat 6:23 ....If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No! This pope is NOT Catholic.


32 posted on 11/25/2016 4:41:16 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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To: Bellflower

Just think about the chaos and madness that would exist without God. The abject and complete loneliness. The lack of protection. The utter lack of love. The inability to escape any of it and the realization that it would never end and that we brought it upon ourselves. That is hell. And that is what Jesus willingly suffered for to save us from. How do we escape if we neglect so great a salvation? We don’t.


33 posted on 11/25/2016 4:46:38 PM PST by freepertoo
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To: marshmallow

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pope is short a few marbles.

To those that hate Yehova, being distant from him would not be punishment.
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34 posted on 11/25/2016 4:49:45 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: freepertoo

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So, that’s your hope?
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35 posted on 11/25/2016 4:51:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Jesus is not only my hope, he saved me from all that. What is your hope? The Bible says there is no other name under heaven by which we may be saved. Jesus is good news.


36 posted on 11/25/2016 4:53:32 PM PST by freepertoo
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To: lurk

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You got it!


37 posted on 11/25/2016 4:54:13 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It isn’t torture, but torment.

Nor is it distance, but separation.


38 posted on 11/25/2016 5:04:38 PM PST by KStorm (Les Deplorables)
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To: cloudmountain

“He is correct. HELL is the absence of God, for eternity.”

Agreed, and I don’t often agree with the Pope.

“Rev 21:8

But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars — their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

It is clear that eternal death is described as punishment. Avoid this by accepting Christ as Lord and Savior. “Romans 10:9-10”


39 posted on 11/25/2016 5:19:36 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: marshmallow

The “Papacy”, beginning and end.

Matthew 16

13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.

21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.

23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.


40 posted on 11/25/2016 5:38:39 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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