Posted on 01/06/2017 8:06:18 AM PST by ebb tide
Bergoglio with his chocolate Luther.
Yup. The Lutheran Church has formally apologized to the Jews for this text.
When can we expect the sainthood status process to begin?
We’re talking about Martin Luther though, not the religion he created.
And what do conservative Roman Catholics think of Bergoglio?
This Catholic convert is very troubled by the current pope. He doesn’t sound very Catholic to me at times.
This Pope’s full-throated endorsement of Communism is very troubling to most of us.
We did not sign up to be foot soldiers in a Marxist assault.
I’m a Traditional Catholic and I view Pope Francis as a bad Pope.
Shortly after I saw what Vatican II was doing to Christ’s Church on earth, I left the new religion and joined a Sedevacantist chapel where only the traditional Tridentine Mass is said and all rubics and tenets are maintained.
These are ordained priests who either studied in Switzerland under Archbishop Marcel LeFavre, or became disgusted with the new religion and joined the traditionalist movement.
It’s quite true that The Roman Catholic Church was replaced with a religion that has very little to do with The Holy Trinity and much to do with secular humanism.
With apologies to Elvis, the Pope has left the Church.
This is not Roman Catholic.
Period.
It is not about "liberal" vs. "conservative" vs. "traditional" ...
There is a path back to His One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church --- full repentance and penance. It has happened in the past, and it is YET another graceful, TRULY merciful gift of Our Triune God.
However, it is much more difficult to do when the said heretic and excommunicate is dead.
Francis does not seem to understand that the FIRST thing Communists do after taking power is start killing Christians.
The Marxist state will brook no competition for the affections of the people.
“This Catholic convert is very troubled by the current pope. He doesnt sound very Catholic to me at times.”
This cradle Catholic (whose brother is a retired Bishop, and who is myself a deacon and lector (aka “lay reader”), no less) is very troubled by the current Pope and the direction of the Church, in general.
From being a consistent Weds/Friday/Sunday mass goer, I’ve been going to a non-denominational church for two years, and mass only once a month because I can’t take our local priest’s (as in, one, SMALL town in New Mexico) overt bigotry against white people and communism disguised as Gospel.
Why would Martin Luther apologize to the Jews? He was the Hitler of his day.
In the first ten sections of the treatise, Luther expounds, at considerable length, upon his views concerning Jews and Judaism and how these compare to Christians and Christianity. Following the exposition, Section XI of the treatise advises Christians to carry out seven remedial actions. These are
- to burn down Jewish synagogues and schools and warn people against them;
- to refuse to let Jews own houses among Christians;
- for Jewish religious writings to be taken away;
- for rabbis to be forbidden to preach;
- to offer no protection to Jews on highways;
- for usury to be prohibited and for all silver and gold to be removed, put aside for safekeeping and given back to Jews who truly convert; and
- to give young, strong Jews flail, axe, spade, spindle, and let them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow.
On the Jews and Their Lies (1543), Martin Luther
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies
He was the product of time and of his religious upbringing, which was Catholic. If you want to paint Martin Luther as being uniquely anti-semitic, you're going to have a tough time separating him from his Catholic contemporaries, at least if you're going to be honest about it rather than merely partisan.
The Catholic Church didn’t call for Christians to burn down Jewish synagogues, etc.. That’s all on Martin Luther.
On the Jews and Their Lies (1543), Martin Luther
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies
The Purgatory references were too much for Luther.
Martin Luther certainly didn’t invent or even perfect the pogrom. That was Rome.
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