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Pope Francis Calls for Lord's Prayer to be Altered as Current Wording Suggests God....
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^
| 12/8/17
| Reporters
Posted on 12/07/2017 5:16:35 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
Next stop...Sermon On The Mount.
To: ameribbean expat
Next stop...Sermon On The Mount.
He’s already there. The second half of the sermon is built around the Our Father, the first half is built around the beatitudes.
Given his proclivity for showmanship, maybe next stop is Frankie Goes to Hollywood.
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posted on
12/07/2017 5:39:11 PM PST
by
Hieronymus
(It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
To: marshmallow
I had already figured this out and did not need popes or bishops to clarify it. On the other hand, when God sees that someone has so embraced their sin that they defy correction (think: Homosexuals), Paul says that God “gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper” (Rom 1:27) so Jesus doesn’t lead us into temptation but God can give them over to depravity if they turn their backs long enough.
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posted on
12/07/2017 5:47:29 PM PST
by
OrangeHoof
(Let Trump Be Trump. Would you rather have Hillary?)
To: Hieronymus
Πάτερ ἡμῶν ὁ ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς· ἁγιασθήτω τὸ ὄνομά σου· 10 ἐλθέτω ἡ βασιλεία σου· γενηθήτω τὸ θέλημά σου, ὡς ἐν οὐρανῷ καὶ ἐπὶ γῆς· 11 τὸν ἄρτον ἡμῶν τὸν ἐπιούσιον δὸς ἡμῖν σήμερον· 12 καὶ ἄφες ἡμῖν τὰ ὀφειλήματα ἡμῶν, ὡς καὶ ἡμεῖς ἀφήκαμεν τοῖς ὀφειλέταις ἡμῶν· 13 καὶ μὴ εἰσενέγκῃς ἡμᾶς εἰς πειρασμόν, ἀλλὰ ῥῦσαι ἡμᾶς ἀπὸ τοῦ πονηροῦ. >< 這到底是什麼意思呢
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posted on
12/07/2017 5:48:23 PM PST
by
laplata
(Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
To: Catholic Canadian
Performed by a supersonic scalpel at least .223 inches wide.
To: Artemis Webb
when is he going to declare himself God ..
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posted on
12/07/2017 5:51:51 PM PST
by
aces
To: VietVet876
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posted on
12/07/2017 5:53:08 PM PST
by
laplata
(Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
To: Hieronymus
The current version makes sense to me....I see it as asking God to help us...lead us not into temptation...here saying help us not be lead into temptation. This makes sense when we further beg God to “ deliver us from evil”.
It’s no big deal if the whole point is to ask God for help against falling into evil and our mortal weaknesses, ie temptations.
To: Recovering Ex-hippie
To: marshmallow
Didn’t God allow the trials of Job?
To: OrangeHoof
he leaves us to deal with our decisions as a good Father would..His way is not ours, His vision is forever..When we turn from him we live in our darkness and are tempted through an increasingly depraved mind, not centered on the way of God..like the world today
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posted on
12/07/2017 5:56:29 PM PST
by
aces
To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
And hardened the heart of the Pharaoh...
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posted on
12/07/2017 5:57:49 PM PST
by
Skywise
To: marshmallow
Has the Pope ever read the Bible?
Luke 4:1-2
1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, 2 Being forty days tempted of the devil.
FYI, Pope, the Spirit is God, who literally led Jesus Himself into temptation.
To: marshmallow
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:10:22 PM PST
by
CMRosary
(Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!)
To: marshmallow
Talk to the guy who said it first, Frankie - need to get His permission to change it.
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:16:40 PM PST
by
Some Fat Guy in L.A.
(Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
To: marshmallow
One of the wording from the Bible says, “Do not put us to the final test”
“But deliver us from the evil one.”
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:24:36 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: metmom
The Bible has it and it is different from the way it is most commonly said.
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:25:57 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation
I often end with “deliver us from the evil one,” when praying it in English.
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:27:29 PM PST
by
CMRosary
(Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!)
To: NorthMountain
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:29:02 PM PST
by
Mercat
To: CMRosary
deliver us from the evil one.....me too.
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:30:13 PM PST
by
JerryBlackwell
(some animals are more equal than others)
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