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Pope Francis Calls for Lord's Prayer to be Altered as Current Wording Suggests God....
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^
| 12/8/17
| Reporters
Posted on 12/07/2017 5:16:35 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
Matthew chapter 6:9-13
“... Our heavenly Father, hallowed is your name.
Your Kingdom is come. Your will is done,
As in heaven so also on earth.
Give us the bread for our daily need.
And leave us serene,
just as we also allowed others serenity.
And do not pass us through trial,
except separate us from the evil one.
For yours is the Kingdom,
the Power and the Glory
To the end of the universe, of all the universes.” Amen!
Translation from Aramaic.
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:31:28 PM PST
by
Mercat
To: Salvation
Your version sounds exactly like the rapture. It needs to be re studied out in the Greek after this assault on Jesus' stunningly simple, but absolutely profound prayer written down for us in The Bible, to confirm it's original meaning. What Jesus says absolutely goes.
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:38:17 PM PST
by
Bellflower
(Who dares believe Jesus?)
To: Mercat
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:41:55 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Mercat
**For yours is the Kingdom,
the Power and the Glory
To the end of the universe, of all the universes. Amen!**
This isn’t in the Bible is it?
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:45:20 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: marshmallow
I am the one who falls. Its not him pushing me into temptation to then see how I have fallen, he continued. A father doesnt do that, a father helps you to get up immediately. Its Satan who leads us into temptation, thats his department. Sounds like he's been hanging around Joel Osteen too much.
This is the kind of stuff you get from the Word of Faith preachers.
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:48:35 PM PST
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
To: Salvation
The doxology is a later addition, from a Greek manuscript assumed to be much older than it was.
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:51:42 PM PST
by
CMRosary
(Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!)
To: CMRosary
I didn’t know that. I always assumed it was added by non-Catholics. My mistake.
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:56:05 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation
Its not part of Matthew 6.
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posted on
12/07/2017 6:58:05 PM PST
by
Mercat
To: NorthMountain
To: Salvation
It was, by those who assembled the King James bible. At the time, they were not aware that the manuscript they were in possession of was of far less ancient provenance than they had assumed, so it was appended to
Matthew 6:13.
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posted on
12/07/2017 7:02:38 PM PST
by
CMRosary
(Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!)
To: marshmallow
Thanks for the input but lets just go ahead and leave that the way it is.
To: Gamecock
“And FRoman Catholics elsewhere on FR are blaming Luther for the worlds problems.”
Some might say there never would have been a Pope Francis if not for a Luther first.
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posted on
12/07/2017 7:12:17 PM PST
by
vladimir998
(Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
To: vladimir998
Probably no Jesuits without Luther.
What is the difference between the O.P.s and the S.J.s?
The Dominicans were founded to combat Albigensianism, the Jesuits Protestantism—have you met an Albigensian lately.
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posted on
12/07/2017 7:18:10 PM PST
by
Hieronymus
(It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
To: vladimir998
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posted on
12/07/2017 7:30:02 PM PST
by
GCFADG
(Set a watch, O LORD, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips.)
To: Artemis Webb
How many more years do we have to listen to this communist POS?
#NotMyPopeNotNowNotEver
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posted on
12/07/2017 7:56:56 PM PST
by
NFHale
(The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
To: marshmallow
Yeah, Jesus Christ might have misspoken when He instructed us to pray those words. Thank God we have a Pope who can correct the Son of God on His error. /sarc
What a deeyoosh.
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posted on
12/07/2017 8:04:31 PM PST
by
60Gunner
(The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
To: Artemis Webb
The Pope is a lunatic.Incorrect. He is a quite sane left wing activist whom leads my church but has abandoned the teachings of The Church.
The real problem with my church is the college of cardinals. They knew full well what this man was when they selected him to be The Pope.
My church is corrupt. My church is dying on the altar of Marxism.
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posted on
12/07/2017 8:09:35 PM PST
by
cpdiii
(DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
To: marshmallow
Frankie, you are not supposed to change the words of Our Lord. He kinda frowns on things like that.
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posted on
12/07/2017 9:43:59 PM PST
by
Slyfox
(Are you tired of winning yet?)
To: marshmallow
I've wondered about that phrase since I was a little girl. Why would you pray to God asking Him to not do something He wouldn't do, anyway?
My pop was a preacher and I asked him about it once, "Why does that verse imply He would lead us into temptation unless we ask Him not to?" Pop said something to the effect that the verse means you're asking Him to protect you from being tempted.
Well, yeah, but that's not what it says...
To: metmom
God does not lead us into temptation. His very nature precludes this from even being a possibility. It shows how little our RCC friends understand the Word.
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posted on
12/08/2017 3:52:39 AM PST
by
ealgeone
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