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Utah Baby Names (That distinctive name that says, "I'm Mormon.")
The Utah Baby Namer ^ | Wes and Cari Clark

Posted on 01/24/2003 4:41:20 PM PST by A.J.Armitage

What's In a (Utah) Name?

by Cari Bilyeu Clark


When my husband and I moved from Utah to the Washington, D.C. area seventeen years ago, we knew nothing of the inadvertent legacy we carried from our four years in Utah. Shortly after we arrived in our new home, we saw a television commercial for a local grocery store chain. The spokeswoman's name was the unusual "Odonna." "She's gotta be from Utah," I said to my husband. "That's a Utah name if I ever heard one."

We eventually learned that Odonna was, indeed, Utah born and bred.

It dawned on us that many names we'd heard during our college careers, and found only mildly remarkable, were indeed unique to the Utah Mormon culture. Thus began our quest to define what makes some names singularly Utahn, and what sets them apart from ethnic names with roots in other cultures, such as Juanita or Shoshanna; or African-American names such as Tawanda and Shaquille; or the newly common, soap-operaesque handles such as Skylar, Tiffany, Raven, and Adrienne. There's a difference, and it's not just the obviously Mormon scriptural names like Mahonri or Nephi or Moroni. Often identifying a Utah name is a gut feeling akin to Justice Potter Stewart's definition of pornography: you know it when you see it.

The quintessential Utah name often has a French-sounding prefix such as Le-, La-, Ne-, or Va-. Often names appear to have genesis in the combined names of the parents--Veradeane or GlenDora, for example. Related is the practice of feminizing the father's name--as in Vonda (dad is Vaughan) or Danetta. Others, such as Snell or Houser, appear to be surnames called into service as first names.

Related is the curious tendency, more common in Utah than elsewhere, for men (women do not seem to do this) to use the first initial, then the full middle name as the given name, such as L. Flake Roberts, who ran for office in Utah County when we lived there. (Come on, you've noticed this habit among the general authorities of the LDS church!) Besides puzzling over why someone would want to be known as "Flake," it makes one wonder just what the "L" stands for.

[Hmmmm. Where have we heard about that before? --A.J.]

So my husband and I entertained ourselves by collecting the often bizarre names we found in Utah publications (including the obituaries, which indicates that this is not a recent fad) and of Utah natives we met. We compiled a list and shared it with our friends, who often as not had a few more to add. We really hit a bonanza when one woman shared our observations with her mother, who worked at a Utah bank and had access to lots of names. She started her own list and began sending the names to us. (My personal favorite, LaNondus, came from this source.) Another friend told us of a set of sisters, all of whose names began with "Ja."

Once my husband had Internet access, he collected more names and corresponded with another couple who amused themselves the same way. They made cleverly categorized lists: "The ward choir director's daughters: LaVoice, Choral, Audia."

It makes you wonder what some parents were thinking when, for instance, they named their baby girl Lanae (la-nay)--and she unfortunately ended up with a big nose (le nez [la-nay] in French means "the nose"). Or the girl named M'Lu--are clever wags endlessly asking her to skip to it? And how the heck do people with apostrophes in their names fill out computerized forms? There's no apostrophe space. The guy I really pity, though, is the one saddled with the unfortunate moniker, Rube.

Of course, parents cannot predict what new interpretations the marketplace will bring to the names they lovingly bestow on their offspring. I once worked at a company which had dealings with a woman named LaPriel (pronounced la-prell). When I told my former roommate about this inexplicable first name, she sardonically replied, "What's her sister's name--LaTegrin?"

With the generally larger-than-average family, often saddled with the very ordinary surnames Smith, Johnson, or Young, it's not surprising that many Utah parents look for unique given names for their children. When you throw in the reverence for family and ancestors forwarded by the LDS Church, it seems inevitable that someone would end up with LaEarl, KDell, Arnolene or Hariella.

Some names, though, seem to defy description--if not pronunciation. While pride of place may have spawned Utahna, how did somebody come up with Wealtha? And while Lloydine's genesis seems plausible, how on earth were Printha or Noy coined? And I have no idea what constitutes the correct pronunciation for Kairle or Tawhnye. (I suspect they may be wildly creative spellings of Carol and Tonya.)

Perhaps the following list (by no means comprehensive) will amuse you. Perhaps it will offend you. Perhaps you will find your name, or the name of a relative, on it. Or perhaps you will be so enchanted by a particular name that you'll want to bestow it upon one of your own offspring. If that is your plan, first do this: go to the back door, fling it open and yell the name at the top of your lungs six or eight times, because that's how it's going to be heard for the next eighteen years. And remember, when little Wynante (boy or girl, you choose) grows up, you'll have to live with the consequences.




The Cream of the Crop

The Clarks' Favorite Utah Names

Updated 24 January 2003


The new parents couldn't be happier: Gladell & Delightra (sisters), Luvit, Delecta, Delite, Joyette, Joi, Joyia, Joyellen, Joycell, Hallah Lujah [How about Hallah Back Y'all? --A.J.], Bliss, Joyanne

Cleanliness is next to Godliness: Zestpoole, Sparkle

The Ward Choir Director's Daughters: Aria, Audia, Aurel, Choral, LaVoice, Tonilee, Capella, Chime, Rocksan Violin

Jewels every one: Amulet, Pearlette, Pearlene, Emerald, JewlyAnn, Ahmre Jade, Treasure Tonya, Turquoise Nova, Sequin, Amethist.

Girls you just know have big, floofy hair: Blondeen, Rayette, Faundaree, Shazette, Shasheena, Honilynn, Najestica, Teasa, Shazzanna, Pluma, Bobbette, Blonda, Breezy, Wenderella, Aquanetta, Brinderella, Dazzlyn

Maybe they're in the Klingon Ward: Tchae, Xko, Corx, G'ni, Vvhs, Garn, Ka, Deauxti, Xymoya, Sha'Kira [Her older sister is called Macare'na.], Zy, Xela, Tscharna, Nivek, Zon'tl, Zagg, Xan, Judziah Datz (a female, named after a character in Star Trek), K'lar (ditto), Jarna Nazhalena, Chod, Xarek, Grik, Stod, T'Shara, Tral, Sherik, Curg

[I am Krang the Merciless!! And I'm a Mormon!]

The Worth of a Soul: Cashley

Astronomical: LeVoid, Sunan, Moonyene, Starlene, Sunelly, Luna, Lunia, Solinda, Sunirae, Staryl, Marandastarr, Season, Aries, Starlyn, Cressent, Celestial Starr, Summerlyn, Astrolena

Could only be LDS: Cumorah Hill, Liahonna, Ensign, Nauvoo, Kirtland, Templa, Templer, Tempella, Tempalia, Ziona, Deseret (and Desereta), Tabernacle, Woodruff, Pratt, Tithing, Quorum, Helamans Warrior, Iron Rod, Morona, Manti, Stripling, Nephi Courage, Celestial Glory, Celestian, Brighaminie, Zion, Xione (pronounced "zion")

Parents were BYU math majors: Alpha Mae, Seven, Seavenly, Twenty, Prime, Omega Lee, Jennyfivetina, Tenna [Mormon porn star: Tenna Tameson.], Elevena, Ninea, Eighta

[How would you like to be named after your birth order?]

You can name a kid this, but you shouldn't ingest it: Cola, Vinyl, Orlon, Chlorine, Clorene, Florene, Florine, Lexann, Dow, Tide, Downy, Codiene, Daquari, DeCon, Starbuck, Crayon, Treasure Cocaine

[Classy. Real classy.]

Names inspired by the family car: Audi, Fairlene, Celecta, Pontiac, Vonda, Vonza, Auto, Cherokee, Lexus, Porsche, Skylark, Truckston, Avis, Chevrollette, Chevonne, Caprice, Dodge

["Honey, nothing says class like Lexus. Now go make some jello."]

Wishful thinking: Darlin', Courage, Winsome, Justan Tru, Pictorianna, Paradise Sunrise, Sage, Angelic, Breed, Godlove, Myrth, LaVirgin, DeFonda Virtue, Chastice, Normalene, Lovie Angel, Precious Blessing, Heavenly Melanie, Glee, Mormon Beauty, Pledger, Jentill, Devota, Coy, Fondd, Bridella, Verna Noall, Vervine, Viva, Golden Noble, MarVel, MemRee, Brunette, Merrily, Merry Ann, Celestial, Cherrish, Kash, Cashelle, Teton, Forever, Luvit, Mystiq, Worthy, Truly, Pleasant, Speedy, Hereditary, Shrudilee, Halo, Gentry, Truthanne, Finita, Mavryck, Amen, Merrijane, Marvelous Man.

Dad's hobby is obvious: Justa Cowgirl, Rode O, Hazer, Durango, Rifle, Laker, Jazz, Truck. Granite, Garnet, Gneiss (and other sisters with rock names beginning with “G.”)

Conversational: Whisper, Chat

Indications of possible birthplace: Arizonia, Floria, Montania, Utah, Utahna, Idahana, Idaho, Mauntana [Flunk spelling, name you kid Mauntana. Study hard!], Michigan, Nevadna, Okla, Vermont, Wyoming, Wyoma, Cache, Jordana, Payson, Vernal, Boise, Brookelynn, Lexington, Demoyn, Fredonia, Leremy, Platte, Salina, Seattle, Takoma, Tulsa, Tustin, Vail, Lundyn, Londyn, Irelynd, Irelan, Madrid, Manila, Cairo, Damascus, Tyre, Desert, Shahara, Trinidad, Houston, Cachelyn, D'Asia, Edon, Takoda, Orem, Shannon doah, Davenport Shore

No man (or woman) is an island - exceptions: Oahu, Irlanda, Tonga, SeaBreaze, Tiki Lou

Possible conception placenames: Hilton, Nafeteria, Bridges, Castle

Indications of possible birthdates: Juneth, Junola, LaJune, Julyn, Halloween, Novella, Summerisa, Winnter, Christmas Holiday, Merrienoel, Kris Miss, Tuesdee, Aprella

The day dawn is breaking: Dawnae, Dawnia, Dawnel, Dawnelle, Dawnene, Dawnalyn, Dawnette, Karadawn, RaDawn, Keturah Dawn, SheriDawn, LuDawn, LaDawn, Le Dawn, El Dawn, Dawnetta, Dawnese, Mistidawn, Berva Dawn, Celestial Dawn, Bodawn, Honey Dawn, Sunrise, Dawny, Yodawn, Dawnika, Dawnray, Denverly Dawn, Sunni Dawn, Dusty Dawn, Taradawn, Twyla Dawn, Georgia Dawn, Iva Dawn, Marva Dawn

Dad was a plumber: Valva, BeDae, Latrina, La Jonne, Digger

Dad worked for the postal service: Mailene

Dad's a lawyer: Justicia

Dad had a hernia: Truss

Less is more: La, Oa, NB, T, M, Q, JJ

I hope the computer will accept apostrophes in the name fields: D'Ann, D'Aun, D'Bora, D'Dee, D'Elise, D'Loaf, D'Shara, E'all, L'Deane, L'orL, Ja'mon, J'Costa, J'dean, J'Leen, J'net, J'Shara, J'Vonna, La'Donis, Me'shell, M'Jean, M'Kaaylie, M'Kenna, Mi'Lara, M'Lisa, M'Liss, M'Lu, M'Recia, O'lea, R'dell, R'lene, Shan'l, Young'n, B'andra, De'lys, D'Dree

["And the called her... O'Lestra. She had the runs a lot."]

Future names of prescriptions: Lyravin, Monalaine, Nyleen, Merlaine, Monease, Naquel, Ronalene, Nylan, Rolayne, Tyron, Lexine, Lyrin, Mikatin, Artax, Xtrin, Tylene, Qedrin, Tamrin, Denilyn, Kevrin, Nicolin, Xylan, Tolex, Zylan, Daycal, Falycid, Zerin, Davon, Sydal

Wow! What a Babe!: Wavie, Zhalore, LaTanna, Tressa, LaDreama, Amourette

Fluid-related: Thermos, Soda, Logan River, Jordan River, Susquehannah, Canteen

When simple alphabetic characters aren't enough: K-8 (pronounced "Kate," I guess)

[Kids: that's happens when you're illiterate. Stay in school!]

Politically incorrect: Sambo, Aryion

[Maybe they weren't thinking "Aryan", but "Arian". Heretics gotta stick together!]

Heard chanted in the Salt Lake airport: Ara-Om

Has food connotations: Dianarea, Dicey, Vindalu, Blenda, Strawberry, Sugarlee, Beena, Pork Chop, Sesami, Jar, Karmel, Kresent, TaffiLyn, Chipo

Had breathing problems in the hospital nursery: Azure, Syrullean

You might find in a forest: Wrendie, Jilbear, Timber, Oaks, Pixie, LaFawnduh, Fawn-Dew, Ember, Bird, Magpie, Serenity Fawn, Paradi, L'Aire, Brookelle, Sylvan, Fawna, Lawn, Rain, Gazelle, El Fawn ["El" makes it masculine, "Fawn" makes it girly-poofy. El Fawn: expressing pride from Salt Lake City to San Francisco.], Aspen, Acacia, Panda, Briar, Rhodendra, Fernnola, Birdene, Hummingbird, Disney, Chinchilla Zest, Haven, Glade

No doubt about it, this kid's in charge: Rexina, Rexine, Queenola, Dominee, Ruger, Messiah Angel, Oden, RexDee, Navy, Jentry, Czar, LeeMaster, Quintessa, Marquessa, Leviathan, Captain.

Smells: Cachet, Reaka, Violeet, Avon, Budla

Faux ethnic: Laddie, Walkasheaqua, Bsjonet, Hishla, Chilnecha, Forthilda, Kaltighanna, Alainka, Chip-wa, Pawnece America, Zem Saxon, O'Ann, WaThene, Sheighlagh, Valliere

Commemorating something or another: Welcome Exile, Confederate American, Southern Justice, Liberty Lulu, Young Elizabeth, Genesis, MistiNoele, Imagine, Thankful Flood, Friends Forsaken, Joyous Noel, Tennyson, Knight Train, Miracles Precious One, Sunday's Hoseana, Disney, Blessing Ream, Stormy Shepherd, Denim Levi, Vernal Independence, Sincere Devotion, Mothers, Elvoid, Noah-Lot, Mormon Miracles, MyLae, Nightrain Lane, Zion Anakin, Jeopardee, Statehood, Denim Levi

Let's hope not: Rube, Sleeza, Nymphus, Golden P., Burns, Hydra, Non, Malis, Talon, Beefea, Patches, Storm, Slayer, Sterile, Slaughter, Jynx, Hyde, Prynne, StormiAnn, Sham, Apathy, DeRail, Dull, Gamble

In a class of their own (In fact, I'm not sure I believe these but we asked for details and a confirmation and got convincing replies, so here they are): NaLa'DeLuhRay, Phakelikaydenicia, Zaragrunudgeyon ("Zarg," for short), Jennyfivetina, Tiarrhea, Nudity, VulvaMae, DaLinda LaDale, Tugdick, Saunsceneyouray, and, yes... Clitoris.

["Well, it sounded pretty when the doctor said it, and my wife Placenta likes it."]

Teletubbies: Laalaa

Guaranteed to get last place on our list (or anyone else's): ZZkora

I can't think of anything clever to write but these must be mentioned: Barbeli, Revo Cram, Feramorz, Glint, LaNondus, Wynante, Camera, Lecoya, AureJudd, NaNon, Bimberly, DavidO, Leumas ("Samuel" backwards), Ralphene, Shimber, T-vive, Synthi, CoJane, Nona-rene, Gaylawn, Txanton, LaZello, Daycal, Sancie D'Wan, RaVoe, Zenus, Gatobon, LaEarl, Trystal, AndiOdette, Serenity-Tabitha-Ann, Alexavier, X Y Zella, Bonquisha, Musser Cenia, Jubeltine, Oryeon, Shlori, Danlonaga, Zedwain, Casualeen, Young'n, Shambertine Crille, Canon, Malique, LeeWitt, Jazzeri, DeRaunz, Teru, Aaro, Divid, Cimemthymia, LaDonnaJosephrania, LaDeeDee, deRalph, MaddLynAlain, Vyquetoriya, Falycid, Rophis, Mick BonScott, Kaysional Tempest, Darianlelo, DeLaVerne, BoChe', Minnet, Kandle, Seena Tawnya, Dwodger, J Thoral, Xanderrick, Abcde, KNikkol, Demeatrice, LLean Shanalyn, Scytha Solena, HiDee


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To: BibChr

We'll see!:)
261 posted on 01/28/2003 4:52:08 PM PST by restornu (I am a child of God:)
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To: BibChr
I am sure that is a negative with you! but the Lord create All kinds of us:)
262 posted on 01/28/2003 4:55:26 PM PST by restornu (I am a child of God:)
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To: P-Marlowe
They say that if you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that barks the loudest is the one that got hit.

Thats what my pastor always says. Its true. I was lucky that my grandmothers breaking away from the LDS church is what caused my dad to raise us as jack-mormons. When I excepted the Lord, I thought I was a Mormon until I started reading the Bible. I had never been in any other church but the Mormon church, and no one had told me any thing about what church to join, or not join. My mothers, mother had taken us to Mormon church twice a week while we were growing up. I wasn't too interested in religion, but always loved the Lord and knew He was real. When I was 15, I had a wonderful born again experience. It was at a Christian rock concert. I came home, and couldn't get enough of reading the Bible. Before I ever went to a Bible Study, or Church I knew I was not a Mormon just from reading the Bible. I was lucky that my mind was not all clouded with mens religious garbage.

It was later on when I started studying my family history that I found out what Mormonism, and the Mormon doctrine was all about.
263 posted on 01/28/2003 5:32:41 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: restornu
Christians are sanctified by the Blood of Jesus Christ. This is the one, and only way to get to God.
264 posted on 01/28/2003 5:39:16 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
Thats what my pastor always says.

I think we must go to the same church. Check my profile page and see if your church's website is listed. :-)

I had a wonderful born again experience. It was at a Christian rock concert.

Mine was after a christian concert at a coffee house in Stanton CA in 1971. BTW what group was playing? Are you still into listening to Christian Rock music? Check out my profile page for some awesome Christian music sites

It was later on when I started studying my family history that I found out what Mormonism, and the Mormon doctrine was all about.

I had to leave Mormonism before I was ready to truly accept Jesus (on HIS terms). I left Mormonism after I lost a debate with some Christians that I was trying to convert.

265 posted on 01/28/2003 5:57:11 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
Sounds like we have alot in common. I excepted Jesus at a "Jesus People Army" rock concert in a park in Richland, Washigton. It was August 21, 1970 I was only 15, but had been away from home partying with 3 of my wild girlfriends. We went to that park to party. 2 of us were changed. I was, and am again living in Idaho. Yes, I am still listening to Christian rock music. The pastor I was talking about oversees several churches now. He is from California, and has a twin brother who is a pastor in California.His name is Tucker.

Your profile page looks interesting, I will take some time to look over it.

My husband grew up in a Lutheran church. He was converted to Mormonism in the 70's. They sent him on a mission to Salt Lake City. He was completely into it. So much so that he was excommunicated for taking the teachings of Joseph Smith, and Brigham Young seriously. He joined the fundlementalists, and wrote a Mormon book about how the church of today has left the teachings of Smith, and Young. It was while researching, and writing this book that his eyes were opened. He is sensitive to Mormons feelings because he knew how it felt. He doesn't like to see people make fun of them. I agree with him. I just believe that by them seeing, and knowing the truth is the only way to freedom.
266 posted on 01/28/2003 7:00:33 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium

Inside these walls I found Jesus.

Fitting name, eh?

It was literally true for me. I was on my way to a fiery eternity and then I met Jesus who rescued me from the flames. A lot of people were rescued from the flames in this place.

267 posted on 01/28/2003 7:34:25 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: BibChr
OK, so explain to me why I will be damned for my beliefs, when others can just say "I'm saved and believe in Jesus Christ" and all their sins are forgiven them, regardless of how they live after that. I live by His teachings, I believe Christ died and atoned for my sins, so what's the difference? BTW, I always get a kick out of all of you saying we members of the LDS church are going to burn in hell. I do believe I would leave that up to the Lord, Jesus Christ.
268 posted on 01/28/2003 8:26:03 PM PST by Utah Girl (Here I come to save the day, Mighty Mouse is on his way!!!)
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To: Delphinium
How very interesting. I was born into an LDS family, and had the Bible read to me from the time I was a baby. As soon as I was old enough to read, I given my own Bible stories to read (published by another denomination even.) And then as soon as I was able to understand Bible language (at age 8 or so), I was given my own Bible, as well as Book of Mormon to read from (we were also taught from the Book of Mormon.) I was taught about Jesus Christ, and have always known he was my Savior, from the time I was very small. Sorry, I do not understand people who say that the LDS church doesn't teach about Jesus Christ. I spent four years in seminary, and took Old Testament, New Testament, Book of Mormon, and LDS Church History. So for two of those years we studied the Bible.
269 posted on 01/28/2003 8:30:25 PM PST by Utah Girl (Here I come to save the day, Mighty Mouse is on his way!!!)
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To: Wrigley; RnMomof7; drstevej; P-Marlowe; Elsie; BibChr
I am so hurt! I want to be on your list! :-)
270 posted on 01/28/2003 8:39:52 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: Illbay
N.B. If drstevej, BibChr, RnMomof7, Wrigley, Elsie, and Philip Marlowe dropped dead, there'd BE no more "Mormon-bashing" on FR.

Bill you do not mean that do you?...God is faithfull to raise up witnesses there would just be more to give the Gospel ...and I know you do not wish us harm any more than we do you

271 posted on 01/28/2003 8:49:29 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: CARepubGal; Illbay
I am so hurt! I want to be on your list! :-)

That was Illbay's death wish list. You need to ask him if you are worthy.

Just think of my disappointment. I was LAST on his list. :-(

272 posted on 01/28/2003 9:00:05 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
I 'm not worthy! Although after reading William LeBaron's story, I dunno if being on a Mormon death list is a good idea....(LeBaron got saved and has an interesting tale from polygamy)
273 posted on 01/28/2003 9:06:14 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: Utah Girl
OK, so explain to me why I will be damned for my beliefs, when others can just say "I'm saved and believe in Jesus Christ" and all their sins are forgiven them, regardless of how they live after that.

But they can't. They have to actually have faith in Jesus, not just say they do. And that faith will produce changes in how they live.

I live by His teachings, I believe Christ died and atoned for my sins, so what's the difference?

The difference is that you don't live by His teachings. If you did, you'd flee from unity with blasphemers.

274 posted on 01/28/2003 9:25:59 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: Utah Girl
OK, so explain to me why I will be damned for my beliefs

People are damned for their sins. they are saved solely by the atoning sacrifice of Christ on the cross for their sins. If you think that there is anything you can do to save yourself from your sins or if you think there are additional requisites to forgiveness of your sins, such as "obedience to the laws and ordinances of the (LDS)gospel" or baptism by the LDS Church or anything other than the Blood of Jesus Christ, then you are denying the sacrifice of Jesus for your sins and hence you are still under the condemnation of your own sins.

Now in order to believe in Jesus you need to believe in THE TRUE Jesus and not some counterfeit Jesus. The Mormons believe that Jesus is literally the Brother of Satan and that Jesus was not God from all eternity and that Jesus did not create everything, etc. This is not the Jesus that is revealed in scripture. the Jesus revealed in Scripture is the ETERNAL WORD OF GOD.

Hence if you buy into the Mormon doctrine, then (IMHO) you do not believe in the Jesus that died on the cross and your belief will not be effective in bringing about any atonement for your sins.

275 posted on 01/28/2003 9:37:01 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: A.J.Armitage
You're not my judge, Jesus Christ will judge me and will judge how I lived my life and followed His teachings. I'm not perfect, but I have faith in Jesus Christ and in His power. And since you seem to know all, exactly what teachings do I not live???
276 posted on 01/28/2003 9:40:17 PM PST by Utah Girl (Here I come to save the day, Mighty Mouse is on his way!!!)
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To: P-Marlowe
Um, OK, so you don't believe in baptism? And you contradicted yourself. First of all, you say we don't have to do anything to be saved by Jesus Christ, if that is true, then my beliefs shouldn't condemn me to everlasting hell. Can't have it both ways.
277 posted on 01/28/2003 9:43:22 PM PST by Utah Girl (Here I come to save the day, Mighty Mouse is on his way!!!)
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To: P-Marlowe; A.J.Armitage
I'd love to spar with you guys all night long, but I've been hit with a headache. Talk to you tomorrow. And again, I will let Jesus Christ judge me on Judgement day. His judgement is the one that matters. :)
278 posted on 01/28/2003 9:48:13 PM PST by Utah Girl (Here I come to save the day, Mighty Mouse is on his way!!!)
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To: Utah Girl
First of all, you say we don't have to do anything to be saved by Jesus Christ, if that is true, then my beliefs shouldn't condemn me to everlasting hell.

Your beliefs do not condemn you, your sin condemns you. your belief in another Jesus is merely an obstacle on the path to salvation. Just go around that obstacle and accept the sacrifice of Jesus for your sins and Believe on the Jesus that is revealed in the Bible and you will be saved.

The problem is that you refuse to acknowledge that you believe in a different Jesus. You need to simply surrender to the Jesus who can actually save you, not the one that Joseph Smith invented, not the Brother-of-Satan-promoted-to-the-godhead-by-the-council-of-the-gods-on-Kolob Jesus, but the creator-of-everything-there-is-no-God-besides-me-the-first-and-the-last-the-almighty Jesus.

Are you willing to do that?

Are you willing to follow Jesus even if it means following him OUT of the LDS Church?

Or does the LDS Church mean more to you than the REAL Jesus?

279 posted on 01/28/2003 9:58:31 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: Utah Girl
You're not my judge, Jesus Christ will judge me and will judge how I lived my life and followed His teachings. I'm not perfect, but I have faith in Jesus Christ and in His power. And since you seem to know all, exactly what teachings do I not live???

An Arian or a Gnostic or an outright pagan could say the same thing.

I'm not judging you. You're right, Jesus will. I'm just telling you that unless you're given the grace to become a Christian, He'll damn you. I'm not singling you out; that's the way it works for everyone.

As for where you aren't following His teachings, I think I already mentioned blasphemy. To affirm the Mormon belief in the plurality of gods and to affirm that God was a mere human on some other world ruled by some other god is to blaspheme. No Christian can ever be a Mormon.

280 posted on 01/28/2003 10:24:15 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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