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    01/25/2015 4:33:33 AM PST · 4 of 4
    Homer_J_Simpson to r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
    Russians in Opeln – 2-3
    Old-Time Methods Add to the Power of the Russian Drive (page 1 photo) – 4
    RAF Hits Nazis Going East; British Push Nearer Ruhr (Daniel) – 5-6
    ‘North Atlantic Alive with Nazi U-Boats’; Ships Sunk ‘Day by Day,’ McNaughton Says – 6
    Tito Flag Hoisted on Yugoslav Ship – 7
    War News Summarized – 7
    Swift Luzon Push Near Clark Field (Jones)- 7-8
    Our Men and Machines on the Road to Manila (photo) – 9
    U.S. Guerrillas Show Up on Luzon; Filipino Woman Weds into Band – 9-10
    B-29’s Batter Iwo as Foe Quits Sky – 10
    Opportunity in West (Baldwin) – 11
    The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on the Fighting in Various War Zones – 12-14
    Soviet Writers Score ‘Soft’ Ideas on Reich; Ehrenburg Hit at U.S. Retraining of Nazis – 14
    Fake Navy Hero Hired Aide to Play Surgeon to Help Him Retain the Friendship of a Girl – 14
  • Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)

    01/25/2015 4:33:27 AM PST · 225 of 225
    caww to don-o
    ...."we cannot seem to get any discussion on the points raised in the OP.....Wonder why that is"....

    Disinterest likely... as better to have the truth be revealed then get wrapped up in catholicisms maize of teachings...

  • 200,000 March for Life – Networks Give them 15 Seconds

    01/25/2015 4:33:09 AM PST · 12 of 12
    SoFloFreeper to Morgana
  • New Horizons probe eyes Pluto for historic encounter

    01/25/2015 4:33:03 AM PST · 4 of 4
    cripplecreek to Crazieman

    And lets not forget that Juno is on its way to Jupiter

  • Manson, Mohammed, and the Innocence of Non-Muslims

    01/25/2015 4:32:26 AM PST · 20 of 20
    Elsie to Democrat_media
    The goal of Islam is world domination


    They have to fight Mormons over it!

    Mormonism claims OTHERworldy domination!!


    01/25/2015 4:32:26 AM PST · 3 of 4
    Homer_J_Simpson to Homer_J_Simpson
    Prime Minister to General Ismay 25 Jan 45

    Pray give me summaries of what our Intelligence predicted [about German strategy and will to resist] on the two previous dates, and what they predict now. Each summary should be limited to fifteen lines. Nothing must be circulated until I have had an opportunity of reading these summaries. Do not let the officers concerned know that what they said a few months ago is being compared with what they say now. It would only dishearten them.

    Winston S. Churchill, Triumph and Tragedy

  • Bibi Defends Congress Trip: I'll Go Anywhere to Defend Israel

    01/25/2015 4:32:25 AM PST · 9 of 9
    FES0844 to sheikdetailfeather

    Prayers for his safety.

  • Bibi Defends Congress Trip: I'll Go Anywhere to Defend Israel

    01/25/2015 4:32:23 AM PST · 8 of 9
    Entrepreneur to CAluvdubya
    Keep fighting, Bibi! Maybe some of your resolve will rub off on Boehner & Co.

    Oh, come on. Boehner's got lots of resolve. He resolves to do nothing. He resolves to not make waves. He resolves to prevent others in the party from doing anything either. His problem isn't resolve. It's the absence of principles.

  • The Gospel According to the Church Fathers

    01/25/2015 4:32:13 AM PST · 219 of 219
    1010RD to Iscool
    1010RD: As a schismatic Catholic, you’ll struggle to build a church from the Bible alone. You need the rock of revelation and the authority it brings to succeed.

    Iscool: All the while the the God of the bible you claim is insufficient says you are wrong...Curious that, eh???

    The entire Bible was received by revelation. There is no Biblical precedent for God's word/knowledge not to be received by revelation. Each book of the Bible individually received by revelation; that's the history of the Bible. At no point does sacred scripture state that revelation has ceased or will ever cease for God's Church. Christ himself emphatically states the opposite to Peter and to us. Revelation, prophetic and angelic, is the Christian expectation and standard, even in our day.

    1010RD: BTW, what’s the method of anointing for the sick?

    Iscool: You douse the head with x-tra virgin olive oil and pray to Mary???

    You shouldn't mock the mother of our Lord. She is a special and unique vessel to house our Lord, Jesus Christ the son of the Living God. God chose her and it's foolishness, unchristian and ungodly to make a mock of God's choices. At the same time it is a violation of God's commandments to give our devotion to anyone other than God. I would not pray to Mary, but to Heavenly Father in Jesus' name as Christ himself taught us.

    My point, and you've proven it, is that although James 5:14 clearly states that the Christian expectation is that the elders of the Church of Jesus Christ can anoint with oil for the blessing of the sick. The blessing is for physical ailments, but also for the forgiveness of sins (missing the mark). Using the Bible alone you cannot know how to do this ordinance. The Christian expectation is that Christ's true Church will contain that information by revelation. The Bible alone and without continuing revelation is insufficient.

  • Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 25 January 2015

    01/25/2015 4:31:22 AM PST · 5 of 5
    Alas Babylon! to All; bray

    “The Sunday Morning Bray”, by Bray!

    Timothy 2:6
    The hardworking farmer should be the first to receive a share of the crops.

    We are witnessing a Marxist nightmare, low gas prices. How can they control the American people and industry if they have low cost fuel? In spite of everything Barak Hussain Omarxist has done to stop this, the free market has come through. We are about to witness one of the biggest stimuli this country has ever enjoyed as low prices begin to work their magic. When you fill your tank for thirty bucks rather than seventy you just got a forty dollar raise and that is great for everyone except for the enviro-nazis.

    This should underline why we need to push for the Keystone pipeline. These are the same people who fought tooth and nail against the Alaska pipeline with doomsday scenarios and now the same crossing Nebraska. Are you kidding, you are telling us the world would end if a cornfield was affected by a spill? These people are accomplished liars since this is the only way they can make an argument having no facts to back their world ending predictions. They have to scare the people into going along with their over the top scaremongering.

    Obama has done everything he can to dictate the end of the pipeline since he knows it will help stabilize if not Holy Dirt forbid, lower the cost of gas for the middle class. From his standpoint high priced gas ushers his centrally planned energy and transportation systems. The basis for boondoggles such as Metro Rail or High Speed rail and electric cars is the necessity of $10+ gas. You have to have a very substantial cost savings to justify the loss of time required to use mass transit. A person must save in excess of twenty dollars to expend the lost time and freedom to take something as inefficient as trains or buses.

    The same thing is true with electric cars. You need to have a large difference in cost of fuel to justify the additional cost of the car and the limited distance of travel. Unless you are an environmental cultist there is no practical reason to buy a car that cannot safely travel less than 200 miles a day. There are few Americans who want to risk having their car stopping running at midnight at the corner of 135th and MLK Blvd. Hands up, don’t shoot Bro.

    President Obama and the Dem Party have done everything they could to make that happen and like everything else they try, failed. Thanks to a worldwide glut of oil combined with a continued Obama worldwide recession, the world is floating in oil. The Russians, Middle Eastern and other producers are competing with each other for a limited market thanks to limited economic activity worldwide. This is what you get from worldwide Marxism with their centrally planned gummit overreach. Now the spiral is beginning to happen as these dictators are being forced to produce more products to maintain their falling revenue forcing more and more oil into the market which is pouring gasoline on smoldering coals.

    We are about to see a resurgence of economic activity in spite of the President. The prices as good as they appear are far from the low cost oil that is in the back of the pipeline. Once that oil begins to be processed we are going to see some of the lowest gas prices we have seen in the last two decades. This will make fro low transportation and heating costs which are the basic building blocks of the entire economic system. What this means for the middle class is low prices across the board for consumer goods and especially high energy goods such as air travel and farming which uses massive quantities of oil based fertilizers bringing food prices down?

    If the Idiot in Chief would take his shackles off the economy and instruct the agencies to allow economic freedom there would be the largest economic expansion in his presidency. This of course will not happen as that would require helping America his sworn enemy. This is his worst nightmare as all of these jobs and opportunities are about to be created through cheap fuel and he has absolutely nothing to do with it. He is handing out free Community College while the invisible hand is beginning to create real good paying jobs. This is the actual stimulus program created by the market rather than some Crash for Clunkers invented by a bunch of Marxists who have never worked an honest day in their lives. We are going to see what happens when what is left of the free market meets a golden opportunity.

    The natural price of gas should actually be below a dollar a gallon. Politicians and especially American have kept the production retarded through laws and regulations making most of the Federal lands, off limits. It is especially sweet that the countries which are hurting the worst are the same socialist disasters we are copying.
    These are countries which tell the producers what to produce rather than letting the market decide. Unlike these despot countries, this oil is going to be purchased by free market manufacturers who will purchase it as needed and maximize the effectiveness of this stimulus.

    This is why the Republicans have to push the Keystone. Make him sit out in the open alone trying to explain how his veto will make American lives better as they fill up with sub two dollar a gallon gas. He can tell these people how paying an additional thirty dollars a tank is good for their families. They have an opportunity to make him into the Christmas Grinch while the Repubs can be the gas station Santa Claus. This is an opportunity to explain how the free market works and the gummit once again does not. This can be a huge symbolic teaching moment how one group is for the middle class while the President is only for enviro-commies and other American haters. Low priced gas can bring a new day to America.

    Pray America is waking

    Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Bray’s. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.


    01/25/2015 4:31:19 AM PST · 2 of 4
    Homer_J_Simpson to Homer_J_Simpson
    Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
    Luzon, P.I., 1941: Invasion of Luzon and the Advance to Manila, 9 January-4 February 1945
    The Ardennes Area, 1944: Operations, 17 January-7 February 1945
    Eastern France and the Low Countries, 1944: Territorial Changes along the Front, 16 December 1944-7 February 1945 and Allied Plan for Rhineland Campaign
    Southeastern France 1944: German Offensive, 1-30 January 1945 and Allied Reduction of Colmar Pocket, 20 January-9 February 1945
    Poland, 1945: Russian Offensive to the Oder – Operations 12 January-30 March 1945
    China, 1941: Operation Ichigo, 1945 and Final Operations in the War
    China-Burma, 1941: Third Burma Campaign – Slim’s Offensive, June 1944-March 1945
  • The Land of the Free---But are we still the home of the brave?

    01/25/2015 4:31:04 AM PST · 26 of 26
    grobdriver to central_va
    a black man has a hard time rising above racial politics

    Perhaps - but in Barry's case it was all about racial politics. He never tried to rise above it... that was just media dreams.

  • Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)

    01/25/2015 4:30:42 AM PST · 224 of 225
    Elsie to huldah1776
    Just took the logic for not marrying to the farthest and don’t have any reason to believe angels have gender.

    Little kids have GENDER.

    They don't USE it yet, but they've GOT it!

    Therefore; logically...

    Matthew 18:3
    And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

  • Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 25 January 2015

    01/25/2015 4:30:39 AM PST · 4 of 5
    Alas Babylon! to All
    Here are the email addresses or web pages for commenting to the weekend talk shows:

    Meet the Press Meet the Press mailbox (web page for comments)

    Face the Nation

    Fox News Sunday

    ABC This Week

    CNN State of the Union CNN State of the Union (web page for comments)


    01/25/2015 4:30:27 AM PST · 1 of 4
    Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
    First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
    Reading assignment: New York Times articles and the occasional radio broadcast delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
    To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile. Also visit our general discussion thread.
  • Pray For the Peace of Jerusalem(1/25/15)[Prayer]

    01/25/2015 4:30:25 AM PST · 1 of 1
    left that other site

    Pray For the Peace of Jerusalem

    Our Father in Heaven
    Hallowed be Your Most Holy Name!
    How We Long For Your Kingdom,
    How We Wait For Your Will to be Done,
    Here on earth, as it already is, in Heaven!
    You Are Our Peace,
    Our Wholeness,
    Our Shalom,
    Our Security,
    Our Prosperity,
    and Our Future.
    We are nothing without You.

    We Pray For The Peace of Jerusalem,
    According to Your Will and Promise.
    We Pray For the People and Leaders of Israel,
    that They Will Look to You for the Protection
    and Prosperity of their Nation.
    We Also Pray For Revival in our own Beloved USA.

    We Pray For The Swift and Sure Coming of Messiah,
    Blessed Be He,
    To Establish His Kingdom,
    and Make All Things Right.

    Blessings To All Who Visit This Garden of Prayer.

    Hallelujah and Amen


  • Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 25 January 2015

    01/25/2015 4:30:20 AM PST · 3 of 5
    Alas Babylon! to All
    C-SPAN Radio, available on the net also, click here, broadcasts all five Sunday talk shows starting at 12:00 noon Eastern, as follows:

    12:00 PM - 1:00 PM NBC's "Meet the Press"

    1:00 PM - 2:00 PM ABC's "This Week"

    2:00 PM - 3:00 PM "Fox News Sunday"

    3:00 PM - 4:30 PM CNN's "State of the Union"

    4:30 PM - 5:00 PM CBS's "Face The Nation"

    Listen at the link above WHILE you FReep!

  • Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 25 January 2015

    01/25/2015 4:30:00 AM PST · 2 of 5
    Alas Babylon! to acapesket; A.Hun; aligncare; altura; Bender2; Bernard; bray; cajungirl; Carley; CDB; chickadee; ...
    This is the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread Ping List! If you want to be on it, reply to this post or FReepmail me (in case I miss it). If you want to be taken off, simply send me a FReepmail.

    Denis "Don't Know" sent out to all the shows to cleanup for Obama... What is it they feel warrants this? Bathtub cereal girl interview? Bibi snub? Or something else?

  • Greenfield: The Hollywood Jihad Against American Sniper

    01/25/2015 4:29:30 AM PST · 11 of 11
    Boomer One to Louis Foxwell

    Extremely well written article. Thanks for posting and exposing me to Daniel Greenfield. I’ll be looking for more of his writings.

  • Any freepers play battlefield 4?

    01/25/2015 4:29:16 AM PST · 35 of 35
    LearnsFromMistakes to GunHoardingCapitalist

    I played BF, 2, and still play 3. Haven’t made the switch to 4, don’t know that my graphics card would be up to the task.

    I played Strike at Kark on 2, and enjoy Metro on 3. Don’t much care for the vehicles and such, and really enjoy the non-explosive servers.

  • Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)

    01/25/2015 4:29:13 AM PST · 223 of 225
    caww to Elsie
    Hello Elsie,....I see the Mariology Cult issue remains a bone of contention as is customary...some things never change much do they?...and the debates, though informative, pretty much travel the same route.

    However I do understand that of late Rome may very well attempt to make it official in their doctrine that she is definately, for them, co-equal with Jesus Christ and God.

    Next she will be proclaimed the Mother of all Mother Goddesses, which every religion has a female figure...and this will unite the faiths with one common 'entity' thus achieving commonality among the "one world religion".

  • Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)

    01/25/2015 4:29:11 AM PST · 222 of 225
    don-o to caww

    Sadly, but not surprisingly the thread has morphed into the same old same old. And, we cannot seem to get any discussion on the points raised in the OP.

    Wonder why that is.

  • Dear FRiends, We need your continuing support to keep FR on the air. [FReepathon XXIV]

    01/25/2015 4:28:42 AM PST · 151 of 151
    DJ MacWoW to FReepers

    Click The Pic To Donate

    Support FR, Donate Monthly If You Can
  • Bibi Defends Congress Trip: I'll Go Anywhere to Defend Israel

    01/25/2015 4:28:18 AM PST · 7 of 9
    Erik Latranyi to Netz
    Major efforts are underway by Israel's Left and Center wings coupled with White House support and resources to do all in their power to OUST the pesky Prime Minister.

    This is how liberals treat all minority groups.....blacks, hispanics, the poor, women and us, but you are not allowed to take a leadership role.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    01/25/2015 4:28:10 AM PST · 6,853 of 6,853
    imardmd1 to Mark17

    Huh? ah, neither. It’s a defense to a couple of AF’s supposed fault-finding agenda, see Post #6835. Just getting warmed up —

  • Exposing The First Birther [Who was the first person to say that Obama was born in Kenya?]

    01/25/2015 4:27:56 AM PST · 181 of 181
    Fantasywriter to cynwoody

    ‘[Cindy Pratt] called the birth of little Barry “a scandal and a half”.’

    She absolutely did nothing of the kind. She said that Stanley Ann having a mixed race son was the scandal. She said nothing about the birth. In context, she is talking about a little boy, not a baby.

  • Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 25 January 2015

    01/25/2015 4:27:50 AM PST · 1 of 5
    Alas Babylon!
    As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions.
  • Jeb Bush speaks up for immigrants as Republicans flock to conservative confab in Iowa

    01/25/2015 4:27:48 AM PST · 28 of 28
    PubliusMM to 2ndDivisionVet

    “King, whose often personal and derogatory criticism of undocumented immigrants has made him a poster child for GOP insensitivity to Latino voters...”

    A most excellent example of the libspeak! The leftists, in their push for blanket amnesty and a (very short) pathway to citizenship, equate ‘undocumented immigrants’ (illegal aliens) with latino votes, and then pounce on the GOP for being insensitive to those votes.

    We would all be better served by politicos who have the courage and strength to stand for their principles and core values, regardless of the opposition.

  • Greenfield: The Hollywood Jihad Against American Sniper

    01/25/2015 4:27:40 AM PST · 10 of 11
    LibsRJerks to Guenevere

    Now if only all patriotic Americans would wake up and realize indeed how irrelevant the left is and vote accordingly .....well now we’d really have a rumble.

  • Ted Cruz Just Launched His Iowa Campaign

    01/25/2015 4:26:57 AM PST · 160 of 160
    CAluvdubya to 2ndDivisionVet

    I like his positive “slogan”—— The Miracle of America!

  • The 5 mansions of the billionaire who wants America to live a 'smaller' existence

    01/25/2015 4:26:53 AM PST · 63 of 63
    SkyPilot to grundle

    From the Word of God:

    Pslam 49: 5-20

    5 Why should I fear in times of trouble, when the iniquity of those who cheat me surrounds me,

    6 those who trust in their wealth and boast of the abundance of their riches?

    7 Truly no man can ransom another, or give to God the price of his life,

    8 for the ransom of their life is costly and can never suffice,

    9 that he should live on forever and never see the pit.

    10 For he sees that even the wise die; the fool and the stupid alike must perish and leave their wealth to others.

    11 Their graves are their homes forever, their dwelling places to all generations, though they called lands by their own names.

    12 Man in his pomp will not remain; he is like the beasts that perish.

    13 This is the path of those who have foolish confidence; yet after them people approve of their boasts. Selah

    14 Like sheep they are appointed for Sheol; death shall be their shepherd, and the upright shall rule over them in the morning. Their form shall be consumed in Sheol, with no place to dwell.

    15 But God will ransom my soul from the power of Sheol, for he will receive me. Selah

    16 Be not afraid when a man becomes rich, when the glory of his house increases.

    17 For when he dies he will carry nothing away; his glory will not go down after him.

    18 For though, while he lives, he counts himself blessed —and though you get praise when you do well for yourself—

    19 his soul will go to the generation of his fathers, who will never again see light.

    20 Man in his pomp yet without understanding is like the beasts that perish.

  • Tide turning in Ebola fight after hard lessons

    01/25/2015 4:26:34 AM PST · 11 of 11
    exDemMom to lee martell
    We Northern Cal. residents are starting to get a little bit nervous.

    Marin County has pockets of anti-vax kooks. It is amazing that anti-vax kookery seems to thrive among well-off "educated" liberals. It just shows that someone can go to college and even get an advanced degree without learning to think, or without even figuring out that a MS or PhD in a topic unrelated to medicine does not qualify them to think they know something about vaccines that the experts don't.

    Anyways, the conditions are ripe in NorCal for a measles epidemic.

  • Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)

    01/25/2015 4:26:31 AM PST · 221 of 225
    HiTech RedNeck to caww

    Personally I have no problem with saying “Roman Catholic” (with the Roman included) any more than saying “Presbyterian” or “Methodist.” I might even say “Catholic” for short.

    That is the standard way to express the name of a denomination.

    If I really DO mean the universal church of all believers, then I might say lower-case “catholic.” This is found through most denominations.

    I find that hate-based typography is not gainful. It creates an extra layer of stuff to hack through in discussions.

  • Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)

    01/25/2015 4:25:44 AM PST · 220 of 225
    Elsie to don-o
    The time stamps provide the answer to that.

    What was the QUESTION?

  • Bibi Defends Congress Trip: I'll Go Anywhere to Defend Israel

    01/25/2015 4:25:33 AM PST · 6 of 9
    sheikdetailfeather to infowarrior
    oglo photo aholeglo_zpsfac8ece2-1.jpg
  • Tom Brady And The Liberal War On Success

    01/25/2015 4:25:10 AM PST · 62 of 62
    USS Alaska to TBP
    The footballs were illegally deflated.

    That is a declarative statement, where is your proof.

    Liberals make opinion statements and call them facts.

    Did you attend the bob beckel school of facts/opinion all the same?

  • Astronomy Picture of the Day -- A Twisted Solar Eruptive Prominence

    01/25/2015 4:24:34 AM PST · 6 of 6
    left that other site to SunkenCiv


  • Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)

    01/25/2015 4:24:21 AM PST · 219 of 225
    Elsie to don-o
    Hold on right there. You have posited a non sequitur.


    ...perpetual virginity, assumption into heaven, her Queenship, and her role in God’s plan of salvation as Co-redemptrix and Mediatrix.
  • Lingerie store sells Michelle Obama bra

    01/25/2015 4:23:43 AM PST · 83 of 83
    muir_redwoods to Libloather

    Each cup should be shaped like the White House since they both contain a boob.

  • Sheldon Silver’s arrest sends Albany into a state of panic (Democrats lighting candles alert!)

    01/25/2015 4:23:25 AM PST · 46 of 46
    Liz to Tawiskaro


  • Greenfield: The Hollywood Jihad Against American Sniper

    01/25/2015 4:23:25 AM PST · 9 of 11
    left that other site to Louis Foxwell

    I have not gone to the movies in YEARS.

    But I just might break my streak for this one!

  • Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)

    01/25/2015 4:22:55 AM PST · 218 of 225
    moose07 to I-ambush
    More designed by committee, no doubt there where some inspired moments:

    The newly crowned King James convened the Hampton Court Conference in 1604. That gathering proposed a new English version in response to the perceived problems of earlier translations as detected by the Puritan faction of the Church of England. Three examples of problems the Puritans perceived with the Bishops and Great Bibles were:

    First, Galatians iv. 25 (from the Bishops' Bible). The Greek word susoichei is not well translated as now it is, bordereth neither expressing the force of the word, nor the apostle's sense, nor the situation of the place. Secondly, psalm cv. 28 (from the Great Bible), ‘They were not obedient;’ the original being, ‘They were not disobedient.’ Thirdly, psalm cvi. 30 (also from the Great Bible), ‘Then stood up Phinees and prayed,’ the Hebrew hath, ‘executed judgment.’

    Instructions were given to the translators that were intended to limit the Puritan influence on this new translation. The Bishop of London added a qualification that the translators would add no marginal notes (which had been an issue in the Geneva Bible). King James cited two passages in the Geneva translation where he found the marginal notes offensive: Exodus 1:19, where the Geneva Bible had commended the example of civil disobedience showed by the Hebrew midwives, and also II Chronicles 15:16, where the Geneva Bible had criticized King Asa for not having executed his idolatrous grandmother, Queen Maachah. Further, the King gave the translators instructions designed to guarantee that the new version would conform to the ecclesiology of the Church of England.Certain Greek and Hebrew words were to be translated in a manner that reflected the traditional usage of the church. For example, old ecclesiastical words such as the word "church" were to be retained and not to be translated as "congregation". The new translation would reflect the episcopal structure of the Church of England and traditional beliefs about ordained clergy.

    James' instructions included several requirements that kept the new translation familiar to its listeners and readers. The text of the Bishops' Bible would serve as the primary guide for the translators, and the familiar proper names of the biblical characters would all be retained. If the Bishops' Bible was deemed problematic in any situation, the translators were permitted to consult other translations from a pre-approved list: the Tyndale Bible, the Coverdale Bible, Matthew's Bible, the Great Bible, and the Geneva Bible. In addition, later scholars have detected an influence on the Authorized Version from the translations of Taverner's Bible and the New Testament of the Douay–Rheims Bible. It is for this reason that the flyleaf of most printings of the Authorized Version observes that the text had been "translated out of the original tongues, and with the former translations diligently compared and revised, by His Majesty's special command."

    The task of translation was undertaken by 47 scholars, although 54 were originally approved. All were members of the Church of England and all except Sir Henry Savile were clergy. The scholars worked in six committees, two based in each of the University of Oxford, the University of Cambridge, and Westminster. The committees included scholars with Puritan sympathies, as well as High Churchmen. Forty unbound copies of the 1602 edition of the Bishops' Bible were specially printed so that the agreed changes of each committee could be recorded in the margins.[The committees worked on certain parts separately and the drafts produced by each committee were then compared and revised for harmony with each other. The scholars were not paid directly for their translation work, instead a circular letter was sent to bishops encouraging them to consider the translators for appointment to well paid livings as these fell vacant. Several were supported by the various colleges at Oxford and Cambridge, while others were promoted to bishoprics, deaneries and prebends through royal patronage.

    The committees started work towards the end of 1604. King James I of England, on 22 July 1604, sent a letter to Archbishop Bancroft asking him to contact all English churchmen requesting that they make donations to his project.

    Right trusty and well beloved, we greet you well. Whereas we have appointed certain learned men, to the number of 4 and 50, for the translating of the Bible, and in this number, divers of them have either no ecclesiastical preferment at all, or else so very small, as the same is far unmeet for men of their deserts and yet we in ourself in any convenient time cannot well remedy it, therefor we do hereby require you, that presently you write in our name as well to the Archbishop of York, as to the rest of the bishops of the province of Cant.[erbury] signifying unto them, that we do well and straitly charge everyone of them ... that (all excuses set apart) when a prebend or parsonage ... shall next upon any occasion happen to be void ... we may commend for the same some such of the learned men, as we shall think fit to be preferred unto it ... Given unto our signet at our palace of West.[minister] on 2 and 20 July , in the 2nd year of our reign of England, France, and of Ireland, and of Scotland xxxvii."

    They had all completed their sections by 1608, the Apocrypha committee finishing first. From January 1609, a General Committee of Review met at Stationers' Hall, London to review the completed marked texts from each of the six committees. The General Committee included John Bois, Andrew Downes and John Harmar, and others known only by their initials, including "AL" (who may be Arthur Lake), and were paid for their attendance by the Stationers' Company. John Bois prepared a note of their deliberations (in Latin) – which has partly survived in two later transcripts. Also surviving is a bound-together set of marked-up corrections to one of the forty Bishops' Bibles – covering the Old Testament and Gospels, and also a manuscript translation of the text of the Epistles, excepting those verses where no change was being recommended to the readings in the Bishops' Bible. Archbishop Bancroft insisted on having a final say, making fourteen changes, of which one was the term "bishopricke" at Acts 1:20.

  • Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)

    01/25/2015 4:21:31 AM PST · 217 of 225
    Elsie to caww; teppe; Normandy; IWONDR
    ....”I demonstrate each of these doctrines to be crucial for our spiritual lives and EVEN OUR SALVATION......And I should note that this applies to all of the Marian doctrines”.....

    This just in!!!

    In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.

    1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
    2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
    3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
    4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
    5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
    6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
    7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
    8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
    9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
    10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
    11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
    12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
    13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
    14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

    I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

    Ezra Taft Benson

    (Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)

  • Bibi Defends Congress Trip: I'll Go Anywhere to Defend Israel

    01/25/2015 4:21:18 AM PST · 5 of 9
    infowarrior to sheikdetailfeather

    Am Ysrael Chai!

  • Bibi Defends Congress Trip: I'll Go Anywhere to Defend Israel

    01/25/2015 4:21:15 AM PST · 4 of 9
    Netz to sheikdetailfeather
    Due to the fact that Bibi speaks and warns the world about Iran means he, (as Jews and Israel always do), KNOW WHAT THE ______ they’re talking about!

    Bibi is speaking the truth and nobody wants to hear it. Bibi is “TOO” outspoken, “TOO” Chutzpah, “TOO” honest about the wormy West's responses to Iran's nuclear program and the March of Islam in general.

    Major efforts are underway by Israel's Left and Center wings coupled with White House support and resources to do all in their power to OUST the pesky Prime Minister.

    It's always those chutzpah Jews reminding the world about it's duties and responsibilities to defend Freedom. The White House and many European capitals want a more mailable Jew to rule Israel. One that will capitulate in a quieter fashion, one that will surrender and just shut the heck up.

    Nope, not this Prime Minister folks, that's why he has to be ousted, so we can get on with Holocaust II...

  • Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)

    01/25/2015 4:21:14 AM PST · 216 of 225
    caww to Arthur McGowan
  • 'American Sniper' Is Almost Too Dumb to Criticize (Beyond horrible)

    01/25/2015 4:20:48 AM PST · 44 of 44
    TalBlack to 2ndDivisionVet

    Film-industry people angrily reject the notion that their movies have to be about anything (except things like “character” and “narrative” and “arc,” subjects they can talk about endlessly). “

    The author gets this right. then he proceeds to most earnestly imagine that the basis of all Morality and Truth resides in the points of his own delusional leftist ideology.

  • 12 keys to the GOP presidential race right now

    01/25/2015 4:20:38 AM PST · 21 of 21
    monocle to molson209

    If Hillary does in fact raise the sums of money recently reported, I think Hillary will conduct a form of the “Rose Garden” campaign. Hillary is not likable and is gaffe prone. Hillary will restrict her public appearances as much as possible and rely on minutely controlled TV commercials where cameras and makeup can provide her a more youthful appearance. TV commercials can also avoid hecklers.

  • 'American Sniper' Is Almost Too Dumb to Criticize (Beyond horrible)

    01/25/2015 4:20:27 AM PST · 43 of 44
    Boomer One to SatinDoll

    The author exemplifies what is wrong with today’s men; a lack of responsibility and sense of duty. I would expect this author to be a metrosexual living in the comfort afforded him by manly men. He’s also very liberal, anti-war and failing to grasp the terrors awaiting America. Time spent on the movie is about zilch and he certainly failed to grasp the themes therein.

  • Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)

    01/25/2015 4:20:20 AM PST · 215 of 225
    HiTech RedNeck to sauropod

    My take, for what it is worth: God understands what the people who do this intend, though being hurt that they don’t yet give Him enough credit to personally receive their prayers. And He still blesses to an extent. But He really wants people to know that they can rely DIRECTLY upon Him. You don’t have to cringe and ask the “Queen.” Ask the King!