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What always gets me is that no matter how low the ratings go, no matter how outrageous - people like this never get kicked off the air. Look what happened to Imus. None of this ever applies to Matthews. THAT is the real outrage here, even more so than the comment itself. The people who run that network never seem to understand that perhaps if they kicked him off, their ratings would go UP b/c people would have respect for MSNBC as a journalistic enterprise.

Someone needs to stand up at one of these townhalls and say to Obama - or any of the Democrats who are brave enough to hold a townhall - that this idea that somehow these protesters at the townhalls are “uncivil” or “mob-like” is a joke when our govt is being run by a man who routinely uses the f-word, flips the bird, and sends dead fish to his political enemies. Emanuel epitomizes incivility.

I noticed the same thing last night with the footage of the bussed-in Obama/ACORN people at that Specter townhall in a small town in PA. Every one of them were carrying around quite a few extra pounds. Here’s my question: will THEY be subjected to rationing? Or will it just be the folks who are comprising the ‘disruptive mobs?

If MJ had been convicted and put in jail - as he should have been - alongside such other perverts as that RC priest, Fr. Shanley - he might even still be alive.

He should talk. What about his own wife?
Talk about a S____.
The kid was practically 10 yrs old before Dave married her. Takes one to know one I suppose

In this day and age the problem with married priests (in any denomination) is a problem of what to do about divorced priests. The two go together. In the Episcopal Church it is basically no longer seen as a problem, but that leaves the Episcopal laity who are at least making some effort to remain faithful in marriage holding the bag for all the expenses related to child support, alimony etc. People are leaving the Episcopal Church in droves b/c of issues like this. It’s not just the gay bishop issue. In our current economy, many of the clergy have a level of pay and benefits and job security that the laity in the Episcopal Church are either losing or do not have to begin with. The Episcopal Church is therefore now becoming top-heavy with bishops and too many priests. Winning over a few South Florida divorced and liberal Hispanics is not going to resolve this. Are these new Episcopalian converts now prepared to start pledging more heavily to support Fr. Cutie and his family?

Again, I have seen no documented evidence that Obama himself has actually advocated this. Am merely passing on what was told to me by someone else. It does, however, fit with some of his other policy positions.

question for Freepers: an ardent pro-life Catholic told me recently that Obama is on record as saying he believes that birth certificates for newborn babies should not be formalized until the child is 5 years old. For example, the medical team might see that a newborn, or even an older child, has serious defects requiring expensive medical interventions. Can this be documented? His position on the unsanctity of preborn life is bad enough, but I had never heard this.

I was not required to confess my sins to a priest in order to be confirmed, and at no time since I have been a full-fledged member of the Church has our priest gotten up and stated that we are required to do this. He does these communal penance services during Advent and Lent, and gives anyone who comes to this service a General Absolution. This is canonically valid according to him. I would be interested to hear what goes on in other parishes and dioceses.

It’s only the ‘conservative’ rich that the media hate anyway. Their rich are the actors, the rock stars, and the media people, and as far as they are concerned these rich folks can continue to lord it over the American people all they want to. It’s hip and trendy to be rich again now that the Democratic rich special interest crowd is running Washington. You can count on the fact that no tax laws will be written in this administration that will in any way cut into the wealth of this crowd. The divide between rich and poor will only continue to widen under Obama.

OK..... what I meant there was that the Pope has no POLITICAL power. Religious power yes, but in this day and age not that many people are religious anyway, so what difference does it make? Look, no disrespect to the Pope was meant here. I am a Catholic myself and admire the man tremendously. But my point still stands: he does not have political power, and he cannot - unlike the President of Iran - initiate a nuclear war. The Iran guy has some REAL power in the temporal world, and to “rehabilitate” him without taking extreme precautions about his intentions, is not a good idea.

What totally amazes me is the fact that the very same people who are beating up on Benedict for this, have NO PROBLEM whatsoever with Obama attempting to “rehabilitate” The President of Iran - also an admitted Holocaust denier. The Pope and Bp. Williamson are powerless figureheads, and very few people listen to them anyway. But Obama and that nutcase over in Iran can do some real damage. Neither Benedict or Williamson have their finger on any nuclear red buttons. Again, the total hypocrisy of the secular media.

maybe he is just playing the same game he played back during the Clinton years - ginning up his ratings by playing to the Republicans. Now that O sits in the Oval Office, and so many in the country have figured out just exactly how biased he was in this last election, he has decided to give the R’s a few crumbs ever now and then, hopefully getting a few viewers back. Count me out.

The ‘base’ was not energized for McCain. The mid-term election of 2010 is only about 19 months away. Bill Clinton could tell him a thing or two about stuff like that. Rush’s ratings are fixin’ to go through the ceiling.

Obama’s fault. Messiah is raining destruction down upon the Alaskan people for electing electing Mrs. Palin.

Another ex-Episcopalian here, now happily in the arms of Mother Church. I would urge all Episcopalians who are disgusted by this man - and many others like him in the Episcopal Church - to just leave, and leave now. If Rome is not your thing then look elsewhere. The point is: just GO. It’s hard, but once you do it, you will wonder what took you so long, and your spiritual walk with Our Lord Jesus Christ will take on an all-new level of importance and meaning in your life.

Another point: most Episcopalians know at least one priest or bishop, and maybe more than one, who has been fired, and possibly even de-frocked forever, because of one incidence of a sexual affair with a woman resulting in a divorce from his wife. Gene not only got off scot-free, but is lionized in the media, made a bishop, and is asked to speak at huge public events of national importance such as the Inauguration of President Barack Obama. This blatant and in-your-face hypocrisy around this one issue, more than anything else, is what is fueling the massive exodus from the Episcopal Church

Scary times. Look what happened in Europe the last time the U.S. was in the midst of a Depression and elected a liberal reform-minded President whose main interest (initially) was in social legislation, and re-vitalizing the American economy. We sat over here, absorbed in our own problems, thinking we could talk pretty to these people. 5 million Jews, and a half million American soldiers died as a result.

“Whatever tax-increases she pushes through congress will not touch her wealth at all. She is worth millions, perhaps as high as $50 million. But that wealth is protected in a trust.”

That’s the problem, isn’t it? I’m all in favor of ‘taxing the rich.’ REALLY taxing the rich, that is. But our system doesn’t do that. It disproportionately taxes the “almost rich,” while leaving the truly rich alone.

Brilliant article. I left the Episcopal church exactly because of this. I am now a Catholic, and happily so. However, make no bones about it - this theology is alive and well in the Catholic Church here in the U.S. Almost all of the priests I have met adhere to it. The Pope, of course, does not, and this is the cause for a lot of grumbling about the old guy. Hopes are high that at the next conclave a liberal will be elected. Lord only knows what will happen to the Catholic Church here in the U.S. if or when that happens.

I am hardly the only one who thinks this way, truthguy. People have been saying this for years. Was just chatting with a good friend who again reminded me that they have not bought an American-made car in over 25 years. I know many people like this. Most of the people I know who talk this way are liberal Democrats too. The only way “change” in all this is going to happen is if we stop buying Big Three.