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Just what I’ve been writing about this subject. Coordinate a big effort with a lot of students and this crap will HAVE to stop. What are they going to do, suspend an entire class or more? If I had a kid in this crap ed system I’d certainly consider starting a movement to do it.

Chesterton:

"A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it."

"Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions."

I've said it before and I'll state it again. This crap will stop once a large group of parents decide to do a public disobedience protest, get the majority of kids in one or more grades or an entire school to draw guns on paper, cut paper into the shape of guns, hold pencils like guns, point finger guns, display toy guns etc in school on the same day. What is the school going to do? Expel/suspend all of them? Have the parents force the school to call the police. What will they do, close the school because there is nobody to teach? NO, they will be forced to stop this zero tolerance stupidity.

I tell you this crap will stop when someone organizes an entire grade or more to bring in squirt guns, pictures of guns, pencils held as guns, finger guns, you name it and the school has to discipline all of them. What are they gonna do then, shut an entire school down? Call the police on an entire class? I doubt it. Maybe then the community and police will force this crap to stop.

After her hammy outburst, I would have said, “Somehow I can’t quite believe that if Ambassador to Libya Chelsea Clinton had been murdered by jihadists four months ago, her mother would sit there today and say, ‘What difference, at this point, does it make who did it?’”

Great come back, wish I'd have thought of it.

Hey, as a “not yet retired” yankee who moved to Pinellas county from PA, I will tell you that I brought my very conservative politics with me. And having voted since moving here Alan Grayson was NOT on any ballot I saw.

Saw it and very compelling, worth watching.

My thoughts when I read the article and decided to post it.

that was sarcasm, tag got dropped.

Just decided to expand their presence. I know I feel better.

I’m reminded of the quote from Chesterton: “A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it.”

I can’t help but wonder what the father would say today?

Probably something along the lines of what is in the brackets in the title of this post!

Thank you for the correction, I read through the lists and didn't see the name but didn't click on their links to get any more details.

Thanks for the info.

Somebody is scamming somebody here.

Checked the Walmart website here

http://corporate.walmart.com/our-story/leadership/executive-management and here

http://corporate.walmart.com/our-story/leadership/board-of-directors

and neither lists a Sam Walton as part of their executive management team or their board of directors.

well I never joined but they mailed me the application when I turned 50. I sent it back in their postage paid envelop saying I wouldn’t join. I got another a couple months later and did same. When I got their third I wrote on it that I can send these back at their expense as many times as they send them. Haven’t rec’d one since - approaching 8 years now.

got a hole in one once, the timing was perfect, the blade of the windmill just passed.

Dined there last Saturday for the first time, they are almost across the highway from my home. The table needed cleaned, when I unwrapped the utensils the napkin looked like it had been used the ironed and put back in for use.

Not sure I'll go back again.

Great article, thanks for posting.

In primary elections, voters go to the polls and are asked their party affiliation. They are then given a ballot which corresponds to that affiliation. Independents are given a separate ballot.

Independents don't vote in PA unless, PA is a closed primary. I agree at a high level with his premise but there is no crossover voting in PA for a primary unless you change parties before the election with that purpose in mind.

Would like to see the study, do you have a link or URL available?

“Christine found out she was pregnant in January. A few days later she says she found out the baby’s father wanted nothing to do with her.” Classic.

Interesting, I didn't get her knocked up and I also want nothing to do with her. :)

O’Reilly and Hussein have one thing in common...breathtaking arrogance and self-importance. TWO things...TWO things in common...

NO wait, three things in common, breathtaking arrogance and self-importance, and a glaring ignorance of the facts. NO wait, four things in common, breathtaking arrogance and self-importance, and a glaring ignorance of the facts and nobody to challenge them. NO wait...

so if my math is right, on the low end that only cost us $1.23 million per job for 787 billion to create OR save 600,000 jobs, on the other hand if it created 1.6 million jobs then they were saved or created for only $492 thousand each. Wow, now that’s a bargain.

Was she packing because the husband had been threatening her or the kids?

In all the stories in 2008 about her, that was never brought up. She would defend her openly carrying as her right (which it is) even though she had a conceal carry permit.

I'm sure more will come out over the next few days about the family details. I just hope and pray it doesn't destroy the kids' lives, pray they can eventually recover from this tragedy.

The article does not say who killed the other before committing suicide.

I don't think the media knows yet, I'm sure the police are still investigating.

I don't know if I read that much into it yet. She was known (nationally I believe) for being the woman who carried openly to her daughter's soccer games and it drew the attention of others at the games, then the sheriff and eventually the media.

A caller to a local radio station said he understood that she was considering divorcing her husband. It supposedly happened around 6:15 last evening. Neighbors are saying they were having marital problems.

Supposedly she was afraid how her husband would handle a divorce, according to the caller to the radio station.

Very sad especially for the kids, they need our prayers.

I understand his points but I believe he is missing a couple important points.

1) Affordability. The ability to provide healthcare coverage to whatever millions of people you deem need the coverage. If you have to spend borrowed money or establish new taxes to cover the people, if you borrow the money you are putting that burden on future generations, if you tax the people you are taking money they could use for other reasons such as charity, or housing, food or clothing that they cannot now use for those needs.

2) Another is that of slavery. If you mandate that physicians and nurses provide care for others at government mandated rates, you essentially are usurping the time and talent of others for the needs you determine are important.

As an RN I work in health insurance with a focus on medical economics which is my area of expertise and specialty. I like this work. If they nationalize the healthcare industry I will likely lose my job and the only employment I'll likely find will be in the healthcare setting. I'm getting too old to be getting people in and out of beds and working shifts. But what choice am I going to have?

I don't think we have to jump to any conclusions, they are happy to drive us there.

In their green envrionmentally friendly cars of course.

how far a leap is it when, given the history of the progressive movement, in the early 1900s they promoted euthanasia for undesired populations.

Also, Dr. Ezekial Emmanuel (sp?) Rahm's brother is a part of the team advising the almighty zero on this, and he wrote that, given limited healthcare resources those resources should be used for productive 20 to 40 year olds and not for the elderly.

I don't think we have to jump to any conclusions, they are happy to drive us there.

I love that movie (Young Frankenstein). I wondered for years why the horses always realed up and whinnied when someone repeated your screen name. Then I saw Cloris Leachman on O’Reilly and she said she wondered the same thing for many years until Mel Brooks told her that Blucher was German for glue. <>p Love that movie.

I did, yes, thanks. Just cleaning my brains off the monitor after my head exploded!

Thanks much!

Guess I'll get to spend some quality time in jail while I wait for my mandatory time to be up!

I’m not seeing the “mandatory” part of this legislation, what am I missing?

Good one, I’m still laughing.

I just had an epiphany of sorts this morning, while talking with a co-worker about the diminishing dow it occurred to me that the stock market was the free market in action. And that zero is trying to move us totally into socialism and these two cannot exist simultaneously so the stock market will lose.

Thoughts?

I respectfully disagree, the nurse shortage will be resolved once enough people are put out of work and healthcare has been nationalized.

When my job is gone in health insurance I'll be dusting off my license and going back to bedside care and I know others will be following, disease managers, case managers, medical review nurses, etc. Once zero puts enough people out of work you'll see a lot fewer nursing ads. :(

My boss and a co-worker (two different guys in two different circles) both said that over the weekend they met w/buddies, a couple of whom voted for zero, and they are now expressing buyer’s remorse.

okay, you win. BTW, let me know when I get a say for your care. ;)

I didn’t say “four mill” was out of the question for payment. I don’t make those decisions and would not want others to do so for me OR YOU based on some preconceived cost benefit and my belief of what a 94 y.o. can do. I advocate those decisions be left up to the doctor, patient and their family. If it was private insurance are you okay with it then? I don’t know this 94 y.o. maybe you do. But there are 90+ people out there playing tennis and jumping out of airplanes and there are 70+ sitting in wheelchairs drooling on bibs, in the medical field we trust people to make wise decisions and SOMETIMES they don’t but the government putting in place a rationing scheme will never have exceptions for them except for Senators Byrd, Kennedy and Specter. And personally (and professionally) that is not a system I want to live under.

uh uh, so? You want someone else making those decisions about you? I suppose if it cost $45 then you’d still be against it based on your premise. It doesn’t cost that. It likely cost a $1000 or so, the hospitalization, the technology to place it, the expertise of the doctor all cost the rest. And BTW, it is likely it didn’t cost $45,000, more likely about half that after insurers deducted their contracted rates from all involved. What is the price break when you’d be okay with it?

Problem is, one person’s effective health care is another person’s waste. I know of 94 year olds who have been given $45,000 implants to alleviate angina when a pill would do just as well.

If you are referring to a stent, do you know the person's history that they weren't prescrived the "pill" and it was not effective? I'm just saying not knowing the person's history can lead some to draw conclusions they shouldn't. Some 94 y.o. are more active than some 65 y.o. and the government setting the rules based on their preconceived ideas or the ideas of the majority of people will lead us to have few people over 90 in the future because we've decided to begin rationing care based on age.

Do Freepers think Medicare should pay for $100K of medical care to extend the life of a terminally ill person by 2 months?

It isn't that simple, first off, many terminally ill are on hospice or, when given the prognosis of less than 6 months to live they put in advance directives.

But to redirect your premise, in Feb 94 issue of New England Journal of Medicine (still have the article) special article titled The Economics of Dying - The Illusion of cost savings at the end of life they demonstrated that 27 to 30% of MCR pymts are for the 5 to 6% who die in that year. Additionally, "There is no method to predict months or weeks in advance who will live and who will die. Consequently, it is difficult to know in advance what costs are for care at the end of life and what costs are for saving a life." They also found that "Only in retrospect, after a patient's death, can we identify the last year or month of life... [and] to many people, reducing expenditures at the end of life seems an easy and readily justifiable way of cutting wasteful spending and freeing resources to ensure universal access to healthcare." Adding "[g]eneral rules [to] curtail the use of unnecessary medical services have been shown to reduce both effective and wasteful services."

You apparently know very little about economics and finance. The tax cuts worked, the problem is they were not followed by spending cuts by the government. Entitlements continued to grow automatically as well. Had the government showed the same restraint as most common households show with their budgets we would not be having this problem. BTW, making housing an entitlement sure went a long way to creating this current problem.

or is that the letter referred to in the article?

is there a link to Part 1?

great article, thanks for posting.

if you check snopes.com, the only part that appears false is the authorship, they don’t refute the details of the payments. Search Snopes with key word of “taxes.”

I wish Direct TV would do this, then yank them off the other channels and I could just avoid that one channel.

Well written, the only part I take a little disagreement with is this... and developing hydrogen as a motor fuel and that is only because it is somewhere on the area of 10x or more of a greenhouse gas than CO2 and if we were putting out water-vapor to the same extent as we are CO2, we'd never hear the end of it from the enviros. AND, I don't believe in global-warming. But why give them more ammunition?