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Why is someone who consistently "celebrates GLBT diversity" on FR allowed to continue posting?

I don't get it.

I am probably allowed to continue posting because in spite of your accusations against me I am not celebrating GLBT/LGBT diversity on FR.

I certainly would not advocate all the expense and pain of the therapy and medical procedures I went through for anyone who doesn't absolutely need it. The results have been worth it, but it is a hard road to go - Gender Transition is not for sissies.

You are probably unclear on the concept that transgender and gay persons don't really have all that much in common in their world views or lifestyles. The saying is that "The only thing gay and transgender people have in common is that the same people beat them up".

I have not been beaten up for being noticeably different in spite of my attempts to try to fit in since high school. But for some especially younger people or those who work in assembly plants it is a very real risk.

My main interest is that people should be able to live their lives without being harassed or physically attacked for it. Is that considered promoting the gay agenda?

In the workplace, I worked closely with my company Human Resources department, followed company policy and the medical standards of care, did everything in it's own time (I used the men's restroom and locker room until I was legally a female, for instance) and was vary careful to get all the proper legal paperwork in place.

Company policy and the law protects me from being harassed and physically attacked in the workplace and out in public, and support these policies and these laws. Is that promoting the gay agenda?

You are free to view me as a mentally ill mutilated male if you so desire. That is probably the opinion of some I work with. Some of my co-workers never did seem to really got the hang of calling my by my new name and using the proper gender pronouns. I don't fret about it, we all have a job to do and cannot be concerned with minor things.

Sometimes people do make jokes - they keep telling me they are going to get an electrician from skilled trades to "check my shorts", for instance. Ha Ha.

I enjoy life every day, and no matter what happens I will still go on living my life.

Part of my training (extensive therapy) is to say "God Bless You" when someone says something to insult or offend or attack you. To turn the negative energy around into positive energy back at them to hopefully overcome their negative feelings about you and what you represent.

So Little Jeremiah, in closing... God Bless You.

Dowd / Zeta rule:

For those who don't know it, the Dowd / Zeta rule is explained in this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2558840/posts

Screaming said:

Celebrating diversity and LGBT rights is for the civilian world, NOT the military.

So the faggot agenda is fine everywhere except in the military? IOW sexual perversion SHOULD be "celebrated" everywhere except in the military?

Well, I was referring to those people who want to "Celebrate Diversity". Obviously not everyone does.

Glad you're being honest at least.

I am honest - I am the same person in person that I am online. My views expressed here are the same as in the workplace, martial arts dojo, shooting range, amateur radio club, or the employee resource group I am a member of at work.

This does not always make me a popular person no matter what group of people I am with. But such is life...

I have found that trying to understand where the other person is coming from and having a sense of humor helps...

I have no problem with what he called them. Why do you?

I don't have any interest in admonishing the poster for what he said. Why do you?

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I was not admonishing the poster for what he said. Outside of controlled environments like the military, courtrooms or the workplace, people can use whatever terms they prefer. It's a freedom of speech thing.

I was just curious as to how he knew "thousands" of them. That is all.

I figured that he works either in public health or in law enforcement.

Thinking about it, it was probably just a figure of speech that he used. Like "I've told you a million times...".

Anyways, since he has not answered by now he has either probably been busy or figures my comment does not deserve an answer. Either of which is ok with me.

No response can be an answer.

I was having a discussion about this with several active/veteran military folks just this evening. They were USAF and Navy, if memory serves.

The prevailing (overwhelming) opinion was that discipline and professionalism - especially in an all-volunteer military - will override the desire of gay service members who might want to flaunt their sexual proclivities.

The best thing for anyone confused about their sexuality or gender identity in the military is to take just keep to yourself and focus on the job and becoming the best Marine (or soldier or sailor or airman or whatever) one can be.

From what the folks at the party I went to told me, that is precisely what the vast majority of gay servicemembers are already doing. The problem, as with any large group of people, is with a few arseholes who make a nuisance of themselves.

Thank you sharing that information.

I am hoping that if the good service members learn to stick together and not be intimidated, they should be able to deal with / counter any threats to the discipline / functioning of the unit.

As with any system that is in place to protect people from harassment or discrimination, there is always going to be the problem of how to deal with someone who is in a protected class but really needs to be let go / punished / etc.

Hopefully they will be able to come up with ways to deal with the Sh!tbirds who will try to use their protected status to escape work, avoid punishment, and in general get over on the system.

HaHa...

But it just looks to me like you’re a good (or lucky) golfer...

Having gays admit the fact isn’t going to do a damn thing to the military or FR.

If homosexuals (gays and lesbians) are allowed to serve in the military openly, I think it will be a friggin' disaster.

If I may ask... Were you ever in the military ?

I was in the Marine Corps about 30 years ago. I was in Radio Communications with an Amtrac (tracked vehicle) unit.

From what I remember of what it is like to be in the military in my young 20's, having gays openly serving definitely will not work in that environment. Remember - the military is a highly testosterone charged environment with tough guys in their early 20's all eager to prove themselves. And of course handling very destructive weapons and driving heavy equipment are all part of the job.

That environment is no place to be out and proud and flying a rainbow flag, so to speak. Lots of opportunities for things to happen to someone no one likes...

Many other posters further back in this message thread have talked with current military and the overwhelming majority will not put up with it. They will leave, or if forced to deal with it, they will deal with it... and it won't be pretty.

The best thing for anyone confused about their sexuality or gender identity in the military is to take just keep to yourself and focus on the job and becoming the best Marine (or soldier or sailor or airman or whatever) one can be.

Celebrating diversity and LGBT rights is for the civilian world, NOT the military.

Looking at his previous posts on Free Republic it is kind on strange - no posts for two years and he returns to post four responses on this topic.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:dormee/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

I don't think it was a Hijack - today's posts are in about the same tone and manner of speaking as the previous ones two years ago. Just probably lurking for two years but jumped in today on this topic because he has strong feelings on it.

Boy, did he ever pick the wrong day and the wrong topic to return on...

I am glad that he was able to fight back effectively and prevail against his three armed adversaries.

For a simple robbery I would think that they would have been in and out.

If they had tied up his wife in the back room and were in the process of tying him up, I would guess that they were planning to rape her while he watched helplessly, and then torture and finally kill both of them.

But instead he fought back and killed all three of the armed bad guys. Good for him.

3 suspects? Were any of them guilty?!!

They are only suspects at this point. But since they are all deceased, they won't be getting a trial - their guilt is for God to judge now.

I personally would guess that they are presently in Hell and still in shock at how their day didn't turn out as they had planned...

oops - Should have did a search before I asked. I found it online.

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Thank you.

Repeal of dadt has nothing to do with gays.

It has everything to do with weakening our military by lawsuits, threats of lawsuits, and creating uncomfortable situations within our uniformed services, and inviting good soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines to leave and be replaced by...(soldiers who will do what they are ordered to do when the order comes down to fire on American citizens who resist the government or the coming New World Order)...

(I filled in my opinion...)

Not to be confrontational - but - the negative connotations regarding gerbils was known loooooooong before Jan 10, 2002.

Just sayin'..... :^0

I always was slow to pick up on stuff...

You think this issue is funny? Do you think that those who object to this attack on our military are to be made fun of?

Back in post #23 he said he knew thousands of gays (looking back to check I see that that actually he called them fags). A couple of other posters kidded him about that.

I looked at his profile and saw that he lives in the same county I do. I was just curious how he came to know thousands of gays (actually he called them fags), so I asked a more direct question, laced with my version of humor.

Even he he responded "None of your business." that would be an answer.

But since you don't liked the way I asked him, maybe you can ask him or answer for him?

Uh, let me guess... Since I'll bet you don't work as a bar tender in a gay club in Detroit, I would guess you work for the County Health dept?

What do you mean?

Well, he said he had met a lot of gays, and did not have a very favorable opinion of them. My smart-aleck comment aside, I can only assume he works in public health testing for and treating STDs...

If I had to live my life over again... I would choose a different screen name...

Don't let it bug ya.

Besides, you have a great tagline.

Thank you. (*smile*)

I agree with you, Nosterrex. I’m TOTALLY opposed to the homosexualization of the military, and of our society. But shutting off debate on “Free Republic” — how does that help? I mean, it’s your absolute right to do so, Mr. Robinson — but shutting down debate does not a “free republic” make. And even though I DISAGREE with many Libertarians and libertarian-minded “conservatives” about homosexuality ( on just about every level possible — moral, political, social, cultural, artistic — you name it), debate still should take place among us. It’s gone on here on Free Republic in the past — I’d hate to see it be pushed to another forum now and in the future. Just my $.02 worth. No offense intended...

It would be like a crowd of gay people came to your church and protested and tried to disrupt your service. You are not going to change their minds, and will spend all your time and energy dealing with them and not get any of your work accomplished.

Some people just have nothing better to do all day then to try to stir up uh.. Shinola... And for some it's a tactic of deliberate disruption.

Jim is trying to prevent the Internet online forum equivalent of that from happening here.

Careful. With a profile name of Screaming_Gerbil, you too may be suspect ;)

Well, I am already "suspect".

I thought it was a cute handle at the time...

I was thinking of pet gerbils, and a little gerbil screaming at the top of its little lungs.

Unfortunately, some aspects of the LGBT lifestyle have ruined certain word associations - gay is homosexual rather than simply happy, rainbow is a gay pan-sexual symbol not just a pretty spectrum of colors, gerbils are cute furry little rodents some people keep as pets but other people do disgusting things with them...

It is frustrating when certain innocent words are made not innocent anymore.

If I had to live my life over again, in addition to starting some things sooner... I would choose a different screen name...

I do not know Jim Rob nor his vision for FR. There seems to be much debate on FR about a whole host of issues. I never got the idea that any subject was off limits until I read this specific post. It seems to contradict the name, Free Republic. Free speech, even of horrible positions, is the life blood of a free republic. As I said, FR is free to decide whatever and whomever are on its board. I find homosexuality and abortion to be immoral, and I do not support those that advocate them. On the other hand, I am an avid supporter of free speech.

The problem with what you said is hat while that philosophy works in a free society, we have a much smaller community with a definite focus here online on this forum, and thus we need some direction to the discussions.

Anyways, on a news and commentary web site such as this one, once everything has been said... Well, there is nothing more to say.

At that time best to just drop it.

Every web site forum seems to have people that post nothing much useful, just start and/or continue arguments. Some forums have more than others, and this site, FreeRepublic - is a big target. Sooner or later you have to quash them or they will always be trying to cause disruption and/or will drown you in their vast volume of inflammatory or silly postings.

Free speech is great, but here Jim Robinson is the one paying for it. So out of respect for him we have to follow his rules.

...out of the thousands of fags I have met...

That statement kinda caught my eye.

Uh, let me guess... Since I'll bet you don't work as a bar tender in a gay club in Detroit, I would guess you work for the County Health dept?

By the way, I live in the same county you do...