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I neither need or nor want the approval of those that are amoral on their very best day. I still can't understand what a liberal such as yourself is doing here.

Once again using tragedy to score cheap points. You and your mentor Piers Morgan dancing on the graves of victims. Have you no shame. Don’t bother replying everyone already knows the answer to that.

Just leaving this here for the good of the order.

Maybe they left because they were tired of your constant whining and kvetching.

Quote me hating homeschooling or retract your lies

Only for your own situation. If you have issues with your homeschooling experience, take it up with your parents because there is no system as a whole to blame for whatever your experience is that you resent so much.

Then this applies equally to you . You had your experiences with public education, and others have had very good experiences with it. And since there is only 3.4% of the population involved in Homeschooling (https://hslda.org/docs/news/2013/201309030.asp) you are vastly outnumbered. Since you raised the issue of parents did you take it up with yours?

I don't care what you call yourself.

I am overwhelmed by your display of Christian charity.... NOT.

Why are you not condemning all the people who are using the massacre of 17 high school students to push their gun control agenda?

Who said I am not, are you on every single forum that I am on? Nice try at the straw man argument

I see you are still defending the indefensible.

Please quote me defending public schooling, show my defense of it in this specific situation. If you can't then you will need to either retract your comment or admit your error. That is what a real Christian would do. I am not holding my breath

Public schools are nothing more than liberal indoctrination centers which have long ago outlived their usefulness. They need to be abolished.

Public education was demanded by the founding fathers and is part of the fabric of society. There are flaws in the system that must be remedied, but not when people resort to the cowardly act of running away. As has been said before if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. As a mater of fact when home schoolers harangue decent public educators they ARE the problem. The constant attacks that people with your prejudice will not persuade anyone. Also didn't Jesus COMMAND us to LOVE one another, are the attacks on public educators truly loving? BTW this was a continuation of your straw man argument

Live with it.

Great defense of of an untenable action.

Also, you have resorted to personal attacks which shows the absolute poverty of any criticism you have against homeschooling.

Actually I haven't. This is an example of a red herring fallacy. A personal attack would be if for instance I said that you smelt of elderberries. I observed that you were displaying certain tendencies.

Let me ask you a question. Since you have engaged in personal attacks against other Christian groups and against public educators does this show the absolute poverty of any criticism you have against homeschooling other Christians and public educators.

Please remember that I was homeschooled for 12 years and I am more than competent to point out and comment on the short comings of that system.

BTW I am certain that you will be thrilled to learn that I will be baptized this Easter as a Christian. No thanks to various members of this forum, but with much thanks to some others, not including yourself. I am looking forward to more spirited dialog with you on various theological matters.

Why are you not condemning all the people who are using the massacre of 17 high school students to push their gun control agenda?

Who said I am not, are you on every single forum that I am on? Nice try at the straw man argument

I see you are still defending the indefensible.

Please quote me defending public schooling, show my defense of it in this specific situation. If you can't then you will need to either retract your comment or admit your error. That is what a real Christian would do. I am not holding my breath

Public schools are nothing more than liberal indoctrination centers which have long ago outlived their usefulness. They need to be abolished.

Public education was demanded by the founding fathers and is part of the fabric of society. There are flaws in the system that must be remedied, but not when people resort to the cowardly act of running away. As has been said before if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. As a mater of fact when home schoolers harangue decent public educators they ARE the problem. The constant attacks that people with your prejudice will not persuade anyone. Also didn't Jesus COMMAND us to LOVE one another, are the attacks on public educators truly loving? BTW this was a continuation of your straw man argument

Live with it.

Great defense of of an untenable action.

Also, you have resorted to personal attacks which shows the absolute poverty of any criticism you have against homeschooling.

Actually I haven't. This is an example of a red herring fallacy. A personal attack would be if for instance I said that you smelt of elderberries. I observed that you were displaying certain tendencies.

Let me ask you a question. Since you have engaged in personal attacks against other Christian groups and against public educators does this show the absolute poverty of any criticism you have against homeschooling other Christians and public educators.

Please remember that I was homeschooled for 12 years and I am more than competent to point out and comment on the short comings of that system.

BTW I am certain that you will be thrilled to learn that I will be baptized this Easter as a Christian. No thanks to various members of this forum, but with much thanks to some others, not including yourself. I am looking forward to more spirited dialog with you on various theological matters.

You are in need of some serious professional help, once again using tragedy to push an agenda.

I pity you. It is sad that you are so morally bankrupt.

Projection, that is the Psychological term for the behavior you are exhibiting. I was not defending public education, I was calling you on the carpet for you lack of charity and using a tragedy to score cheap political points. Like the liberals you are emulating. Didn’t I see you on CNN when i was doing opposition research?

Still trying to score cheap political points. How do you sleep at night, you need serious help. This is a tragedy and all you do is push an agenda.
BTW the way the correct/original saying is “Go pound salt, or Go pound sand down a rat hole” But I wouldn’t expect someone like you to actually know that.

For what it is worth show me your Jesus engaging in Schadenfreude. That is taking pleasure in the misfortune of others. Your previous repose shows how limited your capacity for debate is so I figured I would provide the definition. Chapter and verse please, anything else will be seen as all as an admitting defeat and guilt.

How did I know that you would try and make hay out of a tragedy. Have you no shame at all?
You are the CNN of homeschoolers.

And you still have not shown any sources proving the "Millions abused." I was entirely homeschooled due to my parents careers which required frequent long term residence in third world countries. And I know that it is not the glorious rainbows, butterflies, and unicorns, that you all claim.

Frankly the blame for the poor condition of the public education system can be placed on the shoulders of homescrewlers that pulled their kids out rather than fix the problem they encounter. Eldridge Cleaver said: 'There is no more neutrality in the world. You either have to be part of the solution, or you're going to be part of the problem.'

Seeing as so many of you have made the conscious decision to absent yourself from the solution.......

And course you can supply 2 independent sources that will verify these "millions of students abused". Because Homesrewlers would never ever engage in hyperbole, or out right lie about something like this.

Perhaps some quotes from several of the founding fathers on the value of public education will enlighten you.

And had another which I prepared been adopted by the legislature, our work would have been complete. It was a bill for the more general diffusion of learning. This proposed to divide every county into wards of five or six miles square, like your townships; to establish in each ward a free school for reading, writing and common arithmetic; Thomas Jefferson 1786

If Virtue & Knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslav'd. This will be their great Security. Samuel Adams in a letter to James Warren, 1779. This seems n direct contradiction to your precious Lenin.

Instead of an aristocracy of wealth, of more harm and danger than benefit to society, to make an opening for the aristocracy of virtue and talent, which nature has wisely provided for the direction of the interests of society and scattered with equal hand through all its conditions, was deemed essential to a well-ordered republic. Autobiography of Thomas Jefferson, 1821:

By that part of our plan which prescribes the selection of the youths of genius from among the classes of the poor, we hope to avail the state of those talents which nature has sown as liberally among the poor as the rich, but which perish without use, if not sought for and cultivated.Thomas Jefferson's Notes on Virginia, 1782:

The object [of my education bill was] to bring into action that mass of talents which lies buried in poverty in every country for want of the means of development, and thus give activity to a mass of mind which in proportion to our population shall be the double or treble of what it is in most countries. Thomas Jefferson in a letter to M. Correa de Serra, 1817:

If a man empties his purse into his head no man can take it from him. An investment in knowledge pays the best interest. Ben Franklin, as quoted in Exercises in English Grammar (1909) by M. A. Morse:

Laws for the liberal education of youth, especially of the lower class of people, are so extremely wise and useful, that, to a humane and generous mind, no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant.John Adams from his 1776 Papers:

The whole people must take upon themselves the education of the whole people and be willing to bear the expenses of it. There should not be a district of one mile square, without a school in it, not founded by a charitable individual, but maintained at the public expense of the people themselves.John Adams in The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States: With a Life of the Author, 1854:

It is an object of vast magnitude that systems of education should be adopted and pursued which may not only diffuse a knowledge of the sciences but may implant in the minds of the American youth the principles of virtue and of liberty and inspire them with just and liberal ideas of government and with an inviolable attachment to their own country.Noah Webster in On the Education of Youth in America:

I think I will stick with REAL Americans, instead of the communist you all seem intent on worshiping.

When will you be adding this to your “reason to homescrewl” ping list?

Look who’s talking.

That would be you. I bested you in every single debate on the Religion forum and you ran crying to the Moderator that the mean ole agnostic was beating up on you. Almost every post you reply to on that forum you still have to get back up.

What homeschool advocates on this thread do you know have threatened their school districts with lawsuits?

I didn't say you (plural) threatened lawsuits I said you (plural) were bullies. Anyone that doesn't march to your drummer is attacked enmasse. I offered my own personal experiences and you all were like a school of piranha.

Oh, they do. And they know who the bully parents are. And of course, so many parents still bully school districts with threats of lawsuits.

Sounds like a majority of the Homeschool advocates on this list.

Do you have any other notes you can play on your guitar Johnny?