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WOW (Breakthrough in interpreting Oxyrhynchus Papyri)
the Light of Reason ^ | 4/17/05 | Arthur Silber?

Posted on 04/17/2005 6:14:39 AM PDT by bitt

For more than a century, it has caused excitement and frustration in equal measure – a collection of Greek and Roman writings so vast it could redraw the map of classical civilisation. If only it was legible.

Now, in a breakthrough described as the classical equivalent of finding the holy grail, Oxford University scientists have employed infra-red technology to open up the hoard, known as the Oxyrhynchus Papyri, and with it the prospect that hundreds of lost Greek comedies, tragedies and epic poems will soon be revealed.

In the past four days alone, Oxford’s classicists have used it to make a series of astonishing discoveries, including writing by Sophocles, Euripides, Hesiod and other literary giants of the ancient world, lost for millennia. They even believe they are likely to find lost Christian gospels, the originals of which were written around the time of the earliest books of the New Testament.

The original papyrus documents, discovered in an ancient rubbish dump in central Egypt, are often meaningless to the naked eye – decayed, worm-eaten and blackened by the passage of time. But scientists using the new photographic technique, developed from satellite imaging, are bringing the original writing back into view. Academics have hailed it as a development which could lead to a 20 per cent increase in the number of great Greek and Roman works in existence. Some are even predicting a “second Renaissance”.

Christopher Pelling, Regius Professor of Greek at the University of Oxford, described the new works as “central texts which scholars have been speculating about for centuries”.

Professor Richard Janko, a leading British scholar, formerly of University College London, now head of classics at the University of Michigan, said: “Normally we are lucky to get one such find per decade.” One discovery in particular, a 30-line passage from the poet Archilocos, of whom only 500 lines survive in total, is described as “invaluable” by Dr Peter Jones, author and co-founder of the Friends of Classics campaign.

The papyrus fragments were discovered in historic dumps outside the Graeco-Egyptian town of Oxyrhynchus (“city of the sharp-nosed fish”) in central Egypt at the end of the 19th century. Running to 400,000 fragments, stored in 800 boxes at Oxford’s Sackler Library, it is the biggest hoard of classical manuscripts in the world.

The previously unknown texts, read for the first time last week, include parts of a long-lost tragedy – the Epigonoi (“Progeny”) by the 5th-century BC Greek playwright Sophocles; part of a lost novel by the 2nd-century Greek writer Lucian; unknown material by Euripides; mythological poetry by the 1st-century BC Greek poet Parthenios; work by the 7th-century BC poet Hesiod; and an epic poem by Archilochos, a 7th-century successor of Homer, describing events leading up to the Trojan War. Additional material from Hesiod, Euripides and Sophocles almost certainly await discovery.

Oxford academics have been working alongside infra-red specialists from Brigham Young University, Utah. Their operation is likely to increase the number of great literary works fully or partially surviving from the ancient Greek world by up to a fifth. It could easily double the surviving body of lesser work – the pulp fiction and sitcoms of the day.

“The Oxyrhynchus collection is of unparalleled importance – especially now that it can be read fully and relatively quickly,” said the Oxford academic directing the research, Dr Dirk Obbink. “The material will shed light on virtually every aspect of life in Hellenistic and Roman Egypt, and, by extension, in the classical world as a whole.”

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When it has all been read – mainly in Greek, but sometimes in Latin, Hebrew, Coptic, Syriac, Aramaic, Arabic, Nubian and early Persian – the new material will probably add up to around five million words. Texts deciphered over the past few days will be published next month by the London-based Egypt Exploration Society, which financed the discovery and owns the collection.

Since it was unearthed more than a century ago, the hoard of documents known as the Oxyrhynchus Papyri has fascinated classical scholars. There are 400,000 fragments, many containing text from the great writers of antiquity. But only a small proportion have been read so far. Many were illegible.

Now scientists are using multi-spectral imaging techniques developed from satellite technology to read the papyri at Oxford University’s Sackler Library. The fragments, preserved between sheets of glass, respond to the infra-red spectrum – ink invisible to the naked eye can be seen and photographed.

The fragments form part of a giant “jigsaw puzzle” to be reassembled. Missing “pieces” can be supplied from quotations by later authors, and grammatical analysis.

Key words from the master of Greek tragedy

Speaker A: . . . gobbling the whole, sharpening the flashing iron.

Speaker B: And the helmets are shaking their purple-dyed crests, and for the wearers of breast-plates the weavers are striking up the wise shuttle’s songs, that wakes up those who are asleep.

Speaker A: And he is gluing together the chariot’s rail.

These words were written by the Greek dramatist Sophocles, and are the only known fragment we have of his lost play Epigonoi (literally “The Progeny”), the story of the siege of Thebes. Until last week’s hi-tech analysis of ancient scripts at Oxford University, no one knew of their existence, and this is the first time they have been published.

Sophocles (495-405 BC), was a giant of the golden age of Greek civilisation, a dramatist who work alongside and competed with Aeschylus, Euripides and Aristophanes.

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Last week’s remarkable finds also include work by Euripides, Hesiod and Lucian, plus a large and particularly significant paragraph of text from the Elegies, by Archilochos, a Greek poet of the 7th century BC.


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To: bitt

Any chance these documents could have come from the library in Alexandria, Egypt?


41 posted on 04/17/2005 1:38:55 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Question Liberalism)
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To: Othniel
When they translate part of it, it's going to say, "I, Tiberius-Claudius-Drusus-Nero-Germanicus...am now about to write this strange account of my life....

From the Autobiography of Tiberius Claudius
Born 10 B.C.
Murdered and Deified A.D. 54
By; Robert Graves.

42 posted on 04/17/2005 1:41:26 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I gotta buy an RV..and get out of here...anybody got a Topo map of the Aleutians??)
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To: varon

"Euripides?"

"No,they were already torn when I gottem."


43 posted on 04/17/2005 2:45:17 PM PDT by oldsalt
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To: Paul C. Jesup
I am sure the Catholic Church in Rome is going to have indigestion over this. But I say, BRING ON THE CLASSICS!!!!

YAWN!!! I don't think CATHOLICS nor the Vatican are going to be upset by this, not after the papacy of John Paul II. Many of us CATHOLICS, and many NON-Catholics as well, are intrigued by the calls for his sainthood, and that he be called "the Great," and "Doctor of the Church."

In other words, we already know which are the true Gospels just as much as other Christians already know. NOTHING will change that.

So, yes, by all means, BRING ON THE CLASSICS. The recently departed Pope was also an actor, playwright, polyglot, philosopher, professor, and an average blue collar worker during the Nazi occupation of Poland. We who look to his example, with admiration and NOT with slavish dependency, are therefore not fazed in the least by any forthcoming "revelation" from newly uncovered "classics," for Jesus Christ has already given us that revelation with the Holy Spirit to guide us unceasingly.

Consider the possibility that Christians of OTHER denominations are just as likely, if not MORE so, to have indigestion over this discovery.

Whatever increases our understanding of history, of Western civilization, of the human condition throughout the ages, of the varieties of religious experience, is therefore to be welcomed and studied in depth.

I am always amused when Freepers try to put down their fellow Freepers who just happen to be Catholic.

44 posted on 04/17/2005 5:54:41 PM PDT by albertp (Malice in Blunderland, The Wizard of Odd, Gullible's Troubles! Steal the wealth, spread the poverty.)
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To: albertp
I am always amused when Freepers try to put down their fellow Freepers who just happen to be Catholic.

You missed my point, which was not to put Catholics down, but that since the Catholic Church in Rome gets upset over a fictional novel the "Da Vinci Codes"; they (the Catholic leaders in Rome) might mentally crack at people reading the first editions and unedited materials of the New Testament.

45 posted on 04/17/2005 7:30:45 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup

They get upset about the "Da Vinci Codes" because people are reading it and believing it is fact, not fiction.


46 posted on 04/17/2005 7:35:27 PM PDT by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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The Word The Word
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47 posted on 04/17/2005 8:45:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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The Vanished Library The Vanished Library
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48 posted on 04/18/2005 9:53:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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