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Cadillac Is Killing Its Pricey ELR Plug-In Hybrid
fortune.com ^
| February 3, 2016
| Tom Huddleston, Jr.
Posted on 02/04/2016 1:36:32 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Speaking of high end plug in hybrids, I haven’t heard much about Chevy’s lower end Volt in quite a while. Wondering what’s going on with it? Any current knowledge?
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02/04/2016 1:43:12 AM PST
by
Gaffer
To: Berlin_Freeper
Go figure. Folks who spend all that money for a Cadillac don’t want to plug their car in every night.
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posted on
02/04/2016 1:49:28 AM PST
by
grania
To: Berlin_Freeper
Suddenly, saving the planet isn’t such an urgent matter!
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posted on
02/04/2016 1:52:42 AM PST
by
equaviator
(There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
To: Gaffer
Volt sold about 15,000 units in 2015. The redesigned 2016 model is selling better than the last gen model.
Like the ELR, it’s pretty certain GM takes a loss on every one sold.
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posted on
02/04/2016 2:01:05 AM PST
by
jjotto
("Ya could look it up!")
To: jjotto
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02/04/2016 2:02:26 AM PST
by
Gaffer
To: Gaffer
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posted on
02/04/2016 2:04:47 AM PST
by
jjotto
("Ya could look it up!")
To: Berlin_Freeper
I need some updated wheels, been looking at the GMC Canyon, but the Duramax diesel is unavailabe in Alaska for now.
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posted on
02/04/2016 2:07:38 AM PST
by
Daniel Ramsey
(You don't have to like Trump, his enemies certainly don't.)
To: Daniel Ramsey
Would it not be worth the drive to Seattle for a Duramax? Are the Dodge or Ford Diesels also not available up there?
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posted on
02/04/2016 2:11:22 AM PST
by
mazda77
To: Berlin_Freeper
That was without a doubt the best commercial for American ingenuity.
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02/04/2016 2:12:26 AM PST
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mazda77
To: mazda77
It could but i get better local finance rates here in Alaska.
I might be flying down to Seattle soon anyway, will check the online dealers inventory. Maybe its not the issue i think it is.
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posted on
02/04/2016 2:16:04 AM PST
by
Daniel Ramsey
(You don't have to like Trump, his enemies certainly don't.)
To: Gaffer
Any current knowledge? Good one!
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posted on
02/04/2016 2:23:08 AM PST
by
mcmuffin
(Freedom's On The March - Wave Goodbye!)
To: Berlin_Freeper
Another coal-powered coupe bites the dust. Electric vehicles are just as foolhardy as burning food (corn-derived ethanol) in gasoline vehicles.
Until nuclear power is embraced in this country, and especially until fusion is commercialized, the only reason to ever build an electric vehicle is for specialized applications like indoor or quiet-zone operation (e.g., forklifts and golf carts).
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posted on
02/04/2016 4:55:59 AM PST
by
backwoods-engineer
(AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
To: Berlin_Freeper
Heard that Toyota no longer makes its plug-in Prius.
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02/04/2016 6:02:08 AM PST
by
Auntie Mame
(Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
To: grania
“Go figure. Folks who spend all that money for a Cadillac donât want to plug their car in every night.”
Tesla is selling electric cars twice the price of a Cadillac.
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02/05/2016 7:35:12 AM PST
by
CodeToad
(Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
To: CodeToad
Tesla is selling electric cars twice the price of a CadillacFor real? If I had that kind of money for a car, it would not be spent on a plug-in toy. Silly me.
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02/05/2016 7:39:29 AM PST
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grania
To: Auntie Mame
To: Berlin_Freeper; All
Casual follower of e-drivetrain technology on this end. A lot of talk recently of 48-volt Mild Hybrid Systems have caught my eye. The question begs who is working on it ( many majors, they have hinted about it SAE papers, Ford for example, etc ) and will this Caddy reemerge with this 48v system in the future and who else?
Start here: http://www.greencarcongress.com/48v/
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posted on
02/05/2016 7:49:10 AM PST
by
taildragger
(Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
To: taildragger
If fuel prices stay low, the industry is gonna be in a real dilemma. They are investing tons of capital to design and develop vehicles to meet the (very high) govt mandated fuel economy levels.
And people are wanting to buy pickups and SUVs.
To: nascarnation
Which will put them in the same dilemma they were in years ago to meet CAFE. Import a GEO Metro or Fiesta to meet CAFE and offset the pickups, or add even more high-tech to get the SUV's and Pickups get much higher mileage on their own. I spoke with an Auto Body gnome the other day and they decided not to spend the capital to become a center to fix the new Aluminum Bodied Ford pickups. The number they fixed per year didn't make sense with the capital outlay.
So do we end up with Mild-Hybrid / Aluminum / Carbon-Fiber pickups that no one can work on just to Satisfy Lear-Deeders unobtainium mandates that are making a freakin' pickup as sophisticated as a Formula one racer?
It is beyond Kelly Johnson's " 80% rule " ( look it up ) and we are so far into the curve of not being cost effective it isn't even funny....
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posted on
02/05/2016 8:25:56 AM PST
by
taildragger
(Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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