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Is 2024 Trump's Election to Lose? Looking at the State of the Race: Trump Vs. Biden
Red State ^ | 02/28/2024 | Ward Clark

Posted on 02/28/2024 8:37:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/28/2024 8:37:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Is 2024 Trump's Election to Lose?

To the point that they'll really have to amp up the fraud. We'll see some incredible irregularities this year. Some states will have 100,000 more votes than registered voters. One state may even have more votes than people.

2 posted on 02/28/2024 8:42:23 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: SeekAndFind

Victor Davis Hanson Recently said this election would be the ugliest in American history and implied perhaps the most violent if the Rats lose


3 posted on 02/28/2024 8:43:49 PM PST by 11th_VA (Celebrate Climate Change !!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

When your opponent can massively cheat to win, you have to be able to cheat as well or better. Since Trump isn’t going to cheat he may well not win.


4 posted on 02/28/2024 8:44:03 PM PST by webheart
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To: 11th_VA

I think either way.


5 posted on 02/28/2024 8:48:27 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GFLOBALISM ! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t it a amazing how in 2020 Biden squeaked out narrow victories in the key swing states that he needed to win after they stopped counting votes? Amazing 🤩


6 posted on 02/28/2024 8:50:00 PM PST by 38special (I should've said something earlier)
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To: SeekAndFind

Poor dude cant add.
1) first 269 is a tie.
2) Az and Ga gives him 260, Any one of Wisconsin -10, MI 16 or PA-20 gives him the 10 votes to win. He won all 3 last time giving him an extra 36 EV or 306.
Dude should at least have a basic understanding of the numbers if you are going to write about the subject.


7 posted on 02/28/2024 8:56:15 PM PST by pghbjugop
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Is 2024 Trump's Election to Lose?

If Trump is competitive in ballot harvesting in states which have legalized it, yes. Trump will win the in-person vote. He doesn't need to beat Biden in harvested ballots - just needs to be competitive.
8 posted on 02/28/2024 9:13:15 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SeekAndFind

yeah, let’s get the base even more complacent...

The Democrats have a massive cash advantage which appears to be growing, as well as the press on their side.

Polling data is a flashpoint in time...which is only good for the time the poll was taken, even assuming it is accurate.


9 posted on 02/28/2024 9:18:06 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

The danger is the mail-in ballot. You don’t think a lot of these millions of illegals aren’t going to vote?


10 posted on 02/29/2024 12:04:31 AM PST by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
"If Trump is competitive in ballot harvesting in states which have legalized it, yes."

Yet where is there any evidence that a "yuge and beautiful" ballot harvesting program is being put into place by Trump or the RNC? It needs to be on the ground running now to be effective.

11 posted on 02/29/2024 1:54:25 AM PST by buckalfa (Gut feelings are your guardian angels)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Media is run by Democrats. Trump will win if less people believe the Media.


12 posted on 02/29/2024 2:52:00 AM PST by FreedBird (B)
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To: SeekAndFind

No, it’s Trump’s to have stolen from him, again.


13 posted on 02/29/2024 4:24:48 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
Some states will have 100,000 more votes than registered voters. One state may even have more votes than people.

And just like 2020, no leftist judge will allow any election challenges to go forward. All the Dems have to do is get the "points on the board" via cheat-by-mail-in ballots, and the court cases will be stalled for years.

And what has been done about cheat-by-mail-in ballots since 2020? Absolutely nothing. They were used in 2022 to cheat Kari Lake. RINOs are fine with Democrats cheating against MAGA candidates, which is why Republican-controlled state legislatures are doing nothing to ensure election integrity.

14 posted on 02/29/2024 5:10:59 AM PST by HandBasketHell
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

True, and the sick thing that will be is that those “oddities” will all be known but nobody better say a word about it or they will be prosecuted.

I hope this doesn’t happen but the democrats have shown no signs of becoming good people.


15 posted on 02/29/2024 5:17:21 AM PST by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind

anyone who talks about “a certain poll” and not the average of all polls is pushing an agenda or is just stupid or dumb.

The fact is Trump is leading by BIG margins in more than enough swing states to win.

Arizona - Trump leads by an average of 5.5
Nevada - Trump leads by an average of 7.7
Michigan - Trump leads by an average of 3.6
North Carolina - Trump leads by an average of 5.7
Georgia - Trump leads by an average of 6.5

That is more than enough needed to win right there

But there is also the actual swing states in this race

Pennsylvania - Biden leads by an average of .8
Wisconsin - Trump leads by an average of 1

But neither of those is necessary. Trump could afford to lose both and still win because of his big numbers in the other states.

On average Trump is running nearly 10 points ahead of where he was in 2020 in all of these states. Because Biden was LEADING in the polls by several points in all of those states before! Biden is in big trouble and the reason you are not hearing serious talk about replacing him is that all other possibilities poll WORSE than Biden!


16 posted on 02/29/2024 5:55:28 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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I have Trump at a guaranteed 268 on 270towin

(you are forgetting about Nevada)

But you are correct he needs either Wisconsin -10, MI 16 or PA-20

OR

the extra district in Nevada or Maine for the tie


17 posted on 02/29/2024 5:59:39 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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Good post—the numbers look good.

Imho every Freeper needs to take a deep breath and read Sun Tzu’s The Art of War for March reading.

Then memorize Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals

Why?

Because..we need to avoid two opposite traps.

(1) Overconfidence and complacency.

(2) Excessive fear of Democratic cheating.

Since number two is the most common fear around here I want to comment on it.

Can the Deep State cheat? Yes they can.

Can the Deep State cheat enough to overcome any lead no matter how large? Yes they can.

The question then is not can they cheat but will they cheat—and how much are they willing to cheat.

What matters are the key states. The Democrats steal every election they can in my state of CT but we do not count—there is no chance President Trump can win my state.

The focus needs to be very specific—on those key states. What steps, if any, have been taken to mitigate the risk of cheating in those specific states?

Locals have that information—they should share.

Those kinds of posts are a lot more helpful than the “we are doomed, the Deep State cheats” posts.


18 posted on 02/29/2024 6:11:00 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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The only state I can think of that Trump won in 16 that he could not win in 2024 will be PA, and that’s because NOTHING has been done to curb the fraud.. the PA GOP was an active participant in the 2020 theft and has no intention of doing anything to prevent it from happening again.

WI and MI both made structural changes, and had multiple lawsuits determine a lot of the crap that went on in 2020 was indeed illegal, even though the mainstream press won’t mention any of it.

HOwever even PA the margin is getting to the point where fraud may not even be able to make it up, especially if the numbers keep going the way they are.

Latest polls show Trump up 5 or so in the state.

Remember, Trump never led the polling in 2016 or 2020 nationally or in the swing states...

He is up nationally and in ever single swing state, the average overpolling of Biden was something like 4+ points in the 2020 polls. Meaning if those trends were to continue in 2016, Trump is up 9 in PA currently.

If things remain on the current trend, dems are going to be playing defense in states that they generally don’t have to worry about. However as the election nears I would expect things to shift some, hard to see how Biden keeps sliding all the way to election, but we shall see.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/


19 posted on 02/29/2024 6:14:12 AM PST by HamiltonJay ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump will not be inaugurated January 2025. You can take that to the bank.


20 posted on 02/29/2024 6:22:56 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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