Posted on 12/12/2008 1:06:36 PM PST by BGHater
Archaeologists have discovered an ancient roman battlefield from the third century near Göttingen that will rewrite history, Lower Saxony's department for preservation of historical monuments said on Thursday.
“The find can be dated to the third century and will definitely change the historical perception of that time,” Dr. Henning Haßmann told The Local.
The amazing discovery allows an insight in what must have been a dramatic battle between Romans and Germanic tribes. “The find indicates a massive Roman military presence,” Haßmann said.
So far historians believed that the battle of the Teutoburg Forest, which took place in 9 AD, resulted in the Roman’s Empire withdrawal from Germania without any further attempt to conquer the land beyond the Rhine River again. But the unearthing of the battleground near the village of Kalefeld proves that Rome didn't give up its expansionary ambitions until much later than previously assumed.
“It is pretty normal to find evidence of Roman culture all over even up in Scotland, but a find like this in northern Germany is really amazing,” Haßmann said. “And it's spectacularly well preserved.”
The dig has already brought some 600 artefacts to light during the last three months, most of them ancient weapons.
The exact location has been kept a secret so far, to keep private collectors at bay, Haßmann said. But it will be revealed on Monday by Lower Saxony's minister for science and culture, Lutz Stratmann, as well as the archaeologists that were involved in the excavation.
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At least the Fall of America is being televised.
Who is the west, and who the barbarians, in this context?
That’s a beautiful dagger - wish it could talk...
“Quintilius Varus, give me back my eagles!!!”
Caesar Augustus’ supposed ranting upon hearing of the destruction of the 17th, 18th, & 19th legions in the teutoberg.
Wrong. They were the XVII, XVIII, and XIX Legions.
"When in Roman threads, do as the Romans do".
Hey, my ancestors WERE those Germanic barbarians.
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Wow, that dagger is in amazing condition.
“The Latins may count their number by the tens of thousand, but rest easy knowing that there is no “Gisco” among them.” Hannibal Barca
The comment got such a laugh that Hannibal sent that message among his troops. The approaching Roman army heard their outnumbered foes LAUGHING in their FACES, and marched into the doom that Hannibal had prepared for them.
So much so I wonder if it’s a pic from somewhere else. It really is a amazing blade.
Probably from a Disney flick: I'm pretty sure that's Mickey's hand.
The village of my forebearers kept one of the Legionnaire guidons captured in that famous battle. And if you have relatives from that area, it's worth looking at the history. It's basically the battle shown in the movie Gladiator, except the barbarians win this one. 40,000 Romans were put to death as Germanic soldiers trained by Rome (and that wore the uniform of Rome) led the legions to their deaths in the vast forrest.
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So far historians believed that the battle of the Teutoburg Forest, which took place in 9 AD, resulted in the Roman's Empire withdrawal from Germania without any further attempt to conquer the land beyond the Rhine River again. But the unearthing of the battleground near the village of Kalefeld proves that Rome didn't give up its expansionary ambitions until much later than previously assumed.I think that has been the view for a long time; the glorification of the defeat and massacre of most of three legions is of modern origin and resulted from German nationalism. The huge monument to the battle is many miles from the actual final battle site, and (probably due to ethnic changes over the past 2000 years) not even a hint of folklore about the victory has survived.
So were some of mine.
But if Rome had taken ALL of Germany instead of just the western edges and southern part, there might never have been a Hitler, WW2 and commies in Russia.
When it came to the Roman Republic vs Carthage, we all know that he who laughs last laughs best, and Cato the Elder had the last laugh.
The eventual victory of Rome didn't do that particular Roman army any good. They were killed or sold into slavery to the last man.
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