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Considering Thorium as an Alternative Fuel for Nuclear Energy
NY Times ^ | October 20, 2009 | LISA PHAM

Posted on 10/19/2009 10:03:34 AM PDT by Willie Green

PARIS — For decades, scientists have dreamed about turning thorium — an element that is less radioactive and produces less nuclear waste than uranium — into an alternative fuel for nuclear energy. Recent technological developments may be bringing the dream closer to reality.

As a naturally occurring metal that is substantially more abundant than uranium, its most common isotopic form, thorium-232, can be converted by irradiation to uranium-233, which is suitable for use in nuclear fuels.

The United States is estimated to have 400,000 tons of thorium, Turkey 344,000 tons and India 319,000 tons, according to a 2008 joint report by the Nuclear Energy Agency, a body linked to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, and the International Atomic Energy Agency.

There are no commercial thorium reactors in operation. Instead, nuclear reactors use uranium-235 which must be enriched before it can be used as fuel. Uranium-235 accounts for 0.7 percent of the uranium now being mined.

Rajendran Raja, a physicist at Fermilab — the U.S. Department of Energy’s Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory in Batavia, Illinois — said by telephone that the benefit of adding thorium to the fuel mix would be to create much more fuel using existing abundant resources and to reduce waste.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: energy; fission; fusion; helium3; nuclear; science; stringtheory; thorium

1 posted on 10/19/2009 10:03:34 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

Sounds like breeder-reactors may be coming back into view.


2 posted on 10/19/2009 10:08:02 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Willie Green

It would be great news if we even had the ability to build Nuclear Power plants in the US anymore. Thanks to the Greenie-Eco-Nazis this technology probably won’t matter.
Nuclear power is already safer and cleaner and we’re not allowed to run the country on it.....so what if there might be a safer and cleaner fuel it’s still NUCLEAR POWER and the enviro-marxists will stifle it like everything else.


3 posted on 10/19/2009 10:14:11 AM PDT by brent13a (You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
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To: Willie Green
Cobalt thorium G? :)

the DUmmies are quoting some Norwegian about how thorium is NOT an enviro-friendly alternative. I have little faith in anything Norwegian these days.

4 posted on 10/19/2009 10:15:06 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: Willie Green
Sounds like a red mercury story to me.
5 posted on 10/19/2009 10:17:23 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Willie Green

Pebble bed reactor?


6 posted on 10/19/2009 10:28:21 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: SeeSharp

Breeder reactor designs using thorium go back over 50 years. The argument against them is that you have to re-process the fuel. The French and Japanese re-process fuel all the time, but American greens have prevented us from doing it.


7 posted on 10/19/2009 10:36:36 AM PDT by darth
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To: Willie Green

Are there still folks out there who believe our leaders are actually interested in energy solutions?

They WANT to stop industrialization, production, and anything else that might “risk” population growth!

Mankind = BAD
Dirt = GOOD!


8 posted on 10/19/2009 10:38:21 AM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: Willie Green
The LFTR (Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor) design makes much more sense than even the latest generation light water reactors or pebble bed reactors. The technology has been in existence since the 50's and there is an abundance of thorium available. Even the "greenies" should support this concept, as the nuclear waste is minimal, and rapidly decaying (relatively speaking)

I am glad this is finally getting into the mainstream press.

Here is a long, but interesting lecture on this technology. click here

9 posted on 10/19/2009 10:43:18 AM PDT by SC DOC
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Nothing new here Willie. We did this more than 30 years ago at Shippingport. Here's the transcript of President Peanut turning it on.

After 5 years of operation it did breed maybe 1 - 2% more U233. Cool science experiment, but it was not really commercially viable with the state of the technology then. The core physics in a LWR make it very complex. And the jury is still out as to if it is viable now. Maybe with a high temp liquid metal reactor.

10 posted on 10/19/2009 10:45:11 AM PDT by Ditto (Directions for Clean Government: If they are in, vote them out. Rinse and repeat.)
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11 posted on 10/19/2009 10:46:28 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: SC DOC
Here is another PDF slide show that may go quicker click here
12 posted on 10/19/2009 10:48:28 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: Willie Green; All


Thorium-Hoch-Temperatur-Reaktor THTR-300
13 posted on 10/19/2009 11:00:41 AM PDT by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: jaydubya2; Ditto
Pebble bed reactor?

I'm not sure...

It looks like Pebble Bed still has some R&D interest in SA and China...
US support for PBMR intensifies Areva, Westinghouse contest
but I don't think it's ready for prime time yet.

14 posted on 10/19/2009 11:10:58 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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Pebble bed reactor?

No... it was the old Shippingport Plant (Pressurized Water Reactor) outside of Pittsburgh that had been in operation since 1957. In the mid 70s they shut it down, removed to old core, and loaded a new U 233 core designed at the Westinghouse Bettis Labs. It was an experiment driven by the DoE and Adm. Rickover at the Div. of Naval Reactors.

The experiment ran for 5 years after which the thorium core was removed, taken to Idaho for study, and the Shippingport plant permanently decommissioned.

15 posted on 10/19/2009 11:41:30 AM PDT by Ditto (Directions for Clean Government: If they are in, vote them out. Rinse and repeat.)
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To: AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; KevinDavis; Las Vegas Dave; ...
its most common isotopic form, thorium-232, can be converted by irradiation to uranium-233, which is suitable for use in nuclear fuels
Thanks Willie Green.

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16 posted on 10/19/2009 2:16:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Willie Green

Musn’t overlook Thallium and Thulium ...


17 posted on 10/19/2009 3:35:46 PM PDT by x
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