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Nir Shaviv on the CLOUD experiment, worth a read
watts up with that? ^ | September 1, 2011 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 09/01/2011 1:58:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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Israeli Astrophysicist Dr. Nir Shaviv posted a guest essay at Luboš Motl The Reference Frame titled: The CLOUD is clearing

In a nutshell he’s saying that cosmic ray flux modulated by solar variability has a strong place right alongside CO2, and may in fact be a larger forcing.

He writes:

The results are very beautiful and they demonstrate, yet again, how cosmic rays (which govern the amount of atmospheric ionization) can in principle have an effect on climate.

What do I mean? First, it is well known that solar variability has a large effect on climate. In fact, the effect can be quantified and shown to be 6 to 7 times larger than one could naively expect from just changes in the total solar irradiance. This was shown by using the oceans as a huge calorimeter (e.g., as described here). Namely, an amplification mechanism must be operating.

As a consequence, anyone trying to understand past (and future) climate change must consider the whole effect that the sun has on climate, not just the relatively small variations in the total irradiance (which is the only solar influence most modelers consider). This in turn implies, that some of the 20th century warming should be attributed to the sun, and that the climate sensitivity is on the low side (around 1 deg increase per CO2 doubling)

Read the entire essay here

h/t to Dr. Indur Goklany

Also, William Briggs has an excellent summary as well.

(Excerpt) Read more at wattsupwiththat.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatechange; globalwarminghoax; gorebullwarming

1 posted on 09/01/2011 1:58:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Lancey Howard; ...
Related thread:

Has the AGW argument imploded?

2 posted on 09/01/2011 2:00:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: SirKit

Cosmic Ray Ping!


3 posted on 09/01/2011 2:41:15 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good science will eventually crowd out the global scam artists.


4 posted on 09/01/2011 2:52:12 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; ...
Thanx for the ping Ernest !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

5 posted on 09/01/2011 3:02:53 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It isn’t science until people can be controlled by it.


6 posted on 09/01/2011 4:20:19 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Thanks Ernest!


7 posted on 09/01/2011 6:05:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So you not only get greater water condensation, but the cloud reflectivity properties also get enhanced. Wow. No wonder the AGW predictions have been so far off. You just cannot ignore this data.


8 posted on 09/02/2011 2:04:43 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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Thanks Ernest_at_the_Beach. If this keeps up, we'll get our Freon back!




9 posted on 09/08/2011 3:58:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
If this keeps up, we'll get our Freon back!

Don't bet on it. Only wooden stakes will do the trick.

10 posted on 09/08/2011 4:32:50 PM PDT by AndrewC
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I’m holding out hope that we get our freon back.


11 posted on 09/08/2011 4:53:28 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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