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Deepest Roman shipwrecks found near Greece
UK Daily Mail ^ | May 30, 2012 | Rob Waugh

Posted on 05/30/2012 6:18:13 AM PDT by C19fan

Two Roman-era shipwrecks have been found in deep water off a western Greek island, challenging the idea that ancient shipmasters stuck to coastal routes. The merchant ships were sunk nearly a mile deep between Corfu and Italy - proving that ancient traders didn't 'hug the shore'. Greece's culture ministry said the two third-century wrecks were discovered earlier this month during a survey of an area where a Greek-Italian gas pipeline is to be sunk.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: corfu; esmit; godsgravesglyphs; greece; italy; roman; romanempire; ship

1 posted on 05/30/2012 6:18:21 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Hugging the shore is the fastest way to get wrecked in a keel-less boat.


2 posted on 05/30/2012 6:23:23 AM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: C19fan

How do they know they weren’t coast huggers blown off course to deeper waters and sunk by a storm? Just askin’.


3 posted on 05/30/2012 6:27:20 AM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: SunkenCiv

For your GGG ping list.


4 posted on 05/30/2012 6:31:12 AM PDT by HoneysuckleTN (Where the woodbine twineth... || FUBO! OMG! ABO!)
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To: C19fan

I’m sure that once they realized that they could cuts weeks off a journey from Greece to Italy by navigating straight there as opposed to putzing all the way around the Adriatic, they happily set off across the open ocean. The ancient world was lacking modern technology, but they weren’t stupid.


5 posted on 05/30/2012 6:33:52 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Darteaus94025

Exactly! Like air travel take offs and landings, near shore is the most perilous part of the journey. Rocks, shoals, and pirates.


6 posted on 05/30/2012 6:45:14 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Non-compliant, not govt-issued, and not voting for Romney.)
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To: C19fan

There’s old sailors and bold sailors, but.....


7 posted on 05/30/2012 6:52:01 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: The_Victor

Absolutely. You cut straight across until you pickup a familiar lighthouse or landmark on the opposite coast. Much safer & quicker than hugging a coastline where a sudden storm or windshift might drive you up onto the rocks.


8 posted on 05/30/2012 6:55:45 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: The_Victor

Exactly. By the 3rd century? They had been direct sailing for centuries, I believe I read.

The discovery doesn’t “challenge” anything like the writer is asserting...Romans sailed all over the place....

http://historylink102.com/Rome/roman-ships.htm


9 posted on 05/30/2012 6:59:13 AM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: C19fan

Geez...

The major economic method of making money with a wooden boat:

The larger the number of trips, the more money you make. An average ship lasted about ten years and hugging the coast cost you dearly in revenue. You sailed in straight lines, always.

Why don’t archaeologists own boats?

Not a sailor among them.


10 posted on 05/30/2012 7:24:51 AM PDT by buffaloguy (uab.)
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To: Adder

All pilots, whether ship or plane, know that the closer to land you are the more dangerous it is.


11 posted on 05/30/2012 7:30:49 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: C19fan

Deepest Roman shipwrecks, victims of Somali pirates, found near Greece


12 posted on 05/30/2012 8:13:05 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (what??`?? Who knew?)
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To: HoneysuckleTN; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

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Thanks HoneysuckleTN.

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13 posted on 05/30/2012 8:17:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Tallguy; The_Victor

In order to sail across open ocean you need a method of navigation.


14 posted on 05/30/2012 8:36:09 AM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: douginthearmy

They had GPS (Greek Plotting System)


15 posted on 05/30/2012 8:43:36 AM PDT by rw4site (Little men want Big Government!)
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To: douginthearmy
In order to sail across open ocean you need a method of navigation.

Sun, moon, and stars all worked just fine for the Vikings and Polynesians, known to have navigated much larger bodies of water than the Mediteranian.

16 posted on 05/30/2012 10:17:26 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Adder
The Romans sailed even to the Canary islands.
17 posted on 05/30/2012 11:19:50 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: douginthearmy

In the Med you could use dead reckoning and when you run into the coast follow it to the nearest port.


18 posted on 05/30/2012 12:14:24 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

No doubt there are methods, but did the Romans know and use them in the 3rd century? I’m not sure without doing some research but I was just guessing that if researchers believed they didn’t sail in open ocean, one would conclude that there was no evidence that they had open ocean navigation techniques. As someone upthread mentioned, perhaps they got blown off course. Then again, for all we know, they may have hugged the shore just to do port hops and hit a different brothel each night.


19 posted on 05/30/2012 10:11:05 PM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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