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Europe goes back to the Middle Ages: Map shows how patchwork continent would look if every
UK Daily Mail ^ | September 17, 2014 | Sam Webb

Posted on 09/17/2014 6:42:02 AM PDT by C19fan

This map shows how Europe would look if every separatist movement was granted its dream of independence. With the Scottish referendum just days away, the issue of regions breaking away from their traditional rulers is looming large over the continent. The map features well-known separatist movements, such as the powerful and vocal Basque Nationalist movement in northern Spain and southwestern France, as well as the more obscure, such as the Savoyan League, which supports the independence of the Savoy region of France, which has a population of around 405,500.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: blackdeath; europe; france; godsgravesglyphs; savoyanleague; scotland; scotlandyet; separatist; spain; unitedkingdom
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Spain would really get carved up. Reflects how a united Spain was the result of dynastic marriages leading to Ferdinand and Isabella. Free Bavaria from Prussian oppression!! :)
1 posted on 09/17/2014 6:42:02 AM PDT by C19fan
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Spain? Think about Italy. Metternich once said “Italy is just a geographical expression”.


2 posted on 09/17/2014 6:47:51 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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An independent Bavaria would probably be the most conservative state on the Continent.


3 posted on 09/17/2014 6:48:24 AM PDT by wideawake
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At first I didn't really care one way or the other about the Scottish independence vote, other than seeing it as one of those political curiosities that's fun to watch. But in the last couple weeks seeing how the mere thought of independence is making the one world government Globalists go ape-s**t, I now sincerely hope the “Yes” side wins convincingly....
4 posted on 09/17/2014 6:50:01 AM PDT by apillar
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All the nations seeking independence on their own land except Russians. They plaque unsuspecting welcoming neighbors, then start complaining that natives won’t speak Russian, therefore everything must become Russia. Beware of Trojan Horses and Russian tourists.


5 posted on 09/17/2014 6:52:50 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: C19fan

There would be one big difference - they would all belong to the superstate EU.


6 posted on 09/17/2014 6:53:07 AM PDT by aquila48
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So people who want the UK to stay together are now “one-world government Globalists” just because of that?

It is socialists driving the Scottish “independence” vote, which means that it is not about independence whatsoever.


7 posted on 09/17/2014 6:56:11 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: aquila48

Correct. The EU elites blather on about how an independent Scotland would have left the EU, but that is not what the treaties say about the process of leaving the EU—the power thereof is strictly the domain of the central government in Brussels.


8 posted on 09/17/2014 6:57:44 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: wideawake
Name the movie:

9 posted on 09/17/2014 7:00:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: apillar

Agree. If enough regions act in their own cultural interests maybe Europe in general can save its identity after all.


10 posted on 09/17/2014 7:02:42 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: MrB

Chitty-Chitty Bang Me (no wait, that’s the porn parody. I forget the original....)


11 posted on 09/17/2014 7:02:54 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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Yeah... made me wonder when that King and Queen refused to change out of their pajamas...

a little racy for the context of that movie.


12 posted on 09/17/2014 7:03:50 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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So people who want the UK to stay together are now “one-world government Globalists” just because of that?

Actually I was speaking about the George Soros, Bill Clinton and the rest of the globalist left who have been coming out strongly against Scottish Independence. As for Scots who wants to stay in UK, for whatever reason (and I'm sure their are many good legitimate reasons) more power to them. Admittedly being a citizen of the US, having never been to Scotland and not even having any family background in that region, I have absolutely zero stake in the outcome, and perhaps my hope for a yes vote just so the globalists take one in the gut is a rather selfish reason. But it is what it is...

13 posted on 09/17/2014 7:04:31 AM PDT by apillar
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Can this lead to separatists in the USA? Texas to become its own republic again? They have threatened that for years.
It would be a way that could protect their own borders.
They could keep the riffraff from LA and AR coming into the state.


14 posted on 09/17/2014 7:14:06 AM PDT by 1stIowa ( GMC)
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Scotland going “independent” helps the globalists rather than hurts them. Nothing works better than dividing and conquering.


15 posted on 09/17/2014 7:14:24 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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I’d be perfectly content if California split up into multiple states. It’d be better for CA and for the nation.


16 posted on 09/17/2014 7:16:04 AM PDT by Marko413
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I would really cheer if urban cesspools aka San-Fran, LA, NYC, Chicago split from their respective states. They are stealing votes and funds from good citizens of the states.


17 posted on 09/17/2014 7:24:07 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: 1stIowa

Americans here talk so casually about secession, either to say ‘I’d love my state to secede’ or ‘I wish we could get rid of those states over there messing up my united states’. I liked to play those games too, but its a whole different ball game when it becomes real and you realise that your country could be about to disintegrate.

I bet most of you would be unionists then. No sane person wants to see their own country fall to pieces.


18 posted on 09/17/2014 7:24:29 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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Waiting for the Frisians to declare independence from the Netherlands and Wales from the UK.

FREISTAAT BAYERN!


19 posted on 09/17/2014 7:47:51 AM PDT by 353FMG
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And as Franz the Duke of Bavaria, is the Jacobite pretender to the throne of England, they might have to start pressing the issue!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz,_Duke_of_Bavaria

My great-whatever Grandma was Bavarian. I was always told that she was fond of saying “Dem Chermans (germans), they is the Devil” in her heavy German accent.

They left when the Bismark took over.


20 posted on 09/17/2014 7:52:14 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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