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Britons still live in Anglo-Saxon tribal kingdoms, Oxford University finds
The Telegraph ^ | 18 Mar 2015 | Sarah Knapton, Science Editor

Posted on 03/19/2015 8:46:13 AM PDT by I still care

A new genetic map of Britain shows that there has been little movement between areas of Britain which were former tribal kingdoms in Anglo-Saxon England.

Britons are still living in the same 'tribes' that they did in the 7th Century, Oxford University has found after an astonishing study into our genetic make-up.

Archaeologists and geneticists were amazed to find that genetically similar individuals inhabit the same areas they did following the Anglo-Saxon invasion, following the fall of the Roman Empire.

In fact, a map showing tribes of Britain in 600AD is almost identical to a new chart showing genetic variability throughout the UK, suggesting that local communities have stayed put for the past 1415 years.

Many people in Britain claim to feel a strong sense of regional identity and scientists say they the new study proves that the link to birthplace is DNA deep.

The most striking genetic split can be seen between people living in Cornwall and Devon, where the division lies exactly along the county border. It means that people living on either side of the River Tamar, which separates the two counties, have different DNA.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: angles; anglosaxon; dna; germany; godsgravesglyphs; greatbritain; helixmakemineadouble; heptarchy; history; jutes; normans; romanempire; saxons; thevikings; unitedkingdom; vikings
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21 posted on 03/19/2015 9:42:38 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: I still care

Time for the UN to impose sanctions on the Angles, Saxons and Hwicce for illegal settlements !


22 posted on 03/19/2015 9:48:19 AM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The remnants of the Britons can be found in Wales. My ancestry is Welsh.


23 posted on 03/19/2015 9:55:48 AM PDT by EvilCapitalist (It's better to die free than live as a slave)
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To: driftless2
Yet among the 13 original colonies, the majority of people came from that various British stock. There is a book called Albion's Seed, that shows how specific regions of America were settled by different regions of Britain, and how that affected so much, from accents, words used, religion, politics and foods that families ate.

From the review on Amazon:

This cultural history explains the European settlement of the United States as voluntary migrations from four English cultural centers. Families of zealous, literate Puritan yeomen and artisans from urbanized East Anglia established a religious community in Massachusetts (1629-40); royalist cavaliers headed by Sir William Berkeley and young, male indentured servants from the south and west of England built a highly stratified agrarian way of life in Virginia (1640-70); egalitarian Quakers of modest social standing from the North Midlands resettled in the Delaware Valley and promoted a social pluralism (1675-1715); and, in by far the largest migration (1717-75), poor borderland families of English, Scots, and Irish fled a violent environment to seek a better life in a similarly uncertain American backcountry. These four cultures, reflected in regional patterns of language, architecture, literacy, dress, sport, social structure, religious beliefs, and familial ways, persisted in the American settlements. The final chapter shows the significance of these regional cultures for American history up to the present. Insightful, fresh, interesting, and well-written, this synthesis of traditional and more current historical scholarship provides a model for interpretations of the American character. Subsequent volumes of this promised multivolume work will be eagerly awaited. Highly recommended for the general reader and the scholar.

24 posted on 03/19/2015 10:37:38 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
So the North Ireland-Ireland problem is NOT “just religious” is it?

Good observation.

25 posted on 03/19/2015 10:37:41 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: RayChuang88
My wife grew up in England, and I've visited Britain several times. According to my in-laws there is becoming more and more of a standard accent thanks to media and entertainment. And people do move around there more than they used to.

When I visited Cornwall a few years ago, I expected to hear the Cornish accent with the hard r (which is absent from most English accents) spoken commonly. I rarely heard it. Many of the local people I talked to who worked in shops and restaurants sounded like people in other parts of England I've visited.

26 posted on 03/19/2015 10:42:51 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Did not know that. Thanks. Printed it out and putting it into my genealogy stuff.


27 posted on 03/19/2015 10:43:47 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: I still care
They show the Isle of Man as "Brythonic" (P-Celtic). The Manx language, which died out a few decades ago, was similar to Irish Gaelic and Scottish Gaelic (Q-Celtic). Perhaps Gaelic was brought there after A.D. 600.

Of the surviving Celtic languages, Welsh and Breton are P-Celtic, and Irish Gaelic and Scottish Gaelic are Q-Celtic.

28 posted on 03/19/2015 10:53:08 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: duckbutt

I’ve always noticed that people from certain areas, even here in the US, have a certain “look”.

I remember reading a book about Lizzie Borden years ago, and the author described her as having a “typical old family New England appearance”. I had never heard that description before but after that I thought, I know folks with the same old MA heritage and yes, I can see it - the chubby pink cheeks, the blue eyes, large forehead, etc. I’ve always noticed folks from the Appalachian deep South also have their own look also.

I’d bet anything you could notice it in GB - and not just red hair. But if anyone did a study on it, I’m also sure they’d be called “Racist! Racist!”.


29 posted on 03/19/2015 10:57:23 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: I still care
More genetics fun. A map showing genes for red hair variants. As you can see, the red hair gene is not caused by the same gene in all folks. http://blog.23andme.com/health-traits/no-im-not-irish/

30 posted on 03/19/2015 11:08:07 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: driftless2

Louisiana has half a dozen, probably more, distinct accents all by itself, though at least three, maybe four, are accents of French or Creole French/English.


31 posted on 03/19/2015 11:09:13 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach san La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: I still care
So the Red hair in Scandinavia is caused by a totally different gene than by the one in the UK. As they say in the article, the Vikings left little DNA.
32 posted on 03/19/2015 11:13:26 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

interesting observation. I didn’t notice that.


33 posted on 03/19/2015 11:30:12 AM PDT by Shamrock498
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To: duckbutt

Probably not. There are probably big enough pools of population to avoid most inbreeding, as long as they are careful not to marry their closer cousins.


34 posted on 03/19/2015 12:29:53 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

...Goodness I wish people would learn the difference between “England/English” and “Britain/British!”.
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Is Britain in England? :^)


35 posted on 03/19/2015 12:37:49 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Guess he’s still living in his faddah’s castle which lies yondah.


36 posted on 03/19/2015 1:22:38 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: driftless2

Cajun
N’Awlins
Ozark-Missourah
Missourillini
Southern
Virginian
Florida Cracker
Florida-Cuban
Texan
Californian
Michigander
Wisconsin cheesehead
New Joisey
New Yawk City
New England/Upstate New York
Baahston
Chitcahgo
Ebonics
Jive
Spanglish
Hawaiian
Alaskan
All quite distinctive.

Not to mention a whole bunch of Indian languages...


37 posted on 03/19/2015 2:07:24 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

There’s even a very isolated Frenchlish spoken in a tiny part of Missouri since the French and Spanish ruled there.


38 posted on 03/19/2015 2:09:01 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa
Sorry, lot's of them sound almost the same. If a person not from the area can't tell the difference, there is no difference.

Not true of Britain. A real Cornish accent is not anywhere near a Liverpudlian accent which is not near a Glaswegian which is not near a Cockney.

39 posted on 03/19/2015 2:57:13 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: I still care

Nah. They just behave like it.


40 posted on 03/19/2015 3:00:36 PM PDT by x
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