Posted on 10/02/2017 4:02:52 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6
My assumptions:
(1) The shooter's location should have been immediately apparent to LEOs.
(2) The volume of shooting and the mass casualties should have given LEOs an extreme sense of both importance and urgency.
A 72-minute response-time does not correlate with either (1) or (2).
In my absence of information, it smacks of LEO commanders carefully planning a tactical approach, getting all the details right before proceeding, when in hindsight what was needed was a quick rush of the door--in seven minutes, not seventy-two. What am I missing?
You would make a fine SJW. Look for blame. Lash out. You got it going on.
I haven’t heard the response time.
The shooter smashed out a window. I noticed 2 smashed windows (in non-contiguous rooms). That should’ve made it easy to identify where it was coming from.
They set off a detonation to open the door. Since the hotel could provide the passkey I am assuming he used the deadbolt lock. Don’t know how long it took to get a demolition crew up there.
Shooter killed himself. Allegedly he shot himself as they were approaching (viewed their approach on cameras he’d placed in the hall).
Did they know how many people were in the room? On the hotel floor? It was difficult to assess the situation from the ground, but over an hour seems way too long.
I was under the impression that the shooting only lasted 10 minutes.
“I noticed 2 smashed windows (in non-contiguous rooms). “
It’s a suite. The rooms are contiguous.
10:08 - 11:20 pm before they stormed his door. Your “impression” may be correct, but I’m looking for data.
Police are very cautious on their approaches now. The officers at the Boston bombing shot up a boat and waited an hour before approaching it. When Charles Whitmore shot from the University of Texas tower, I believe it was only two officers who stormed the observation deck. Different attitudes, different methods.
I, too, would like to here LEO’s reasons for the 72 minute response time.
There's certainly a time for caution, but if a shooter is continuing to take people down, that isn't such a time. But that's the question: did the concert clear out in ten minutes and he stopped shooting completely, enabling caution? Data needed.
You are way off.
Response time was total 20 minutes at most from first shots.
Shooter fired thru door, wounded one security guard.
They were told to back off and wait for SWAT - who was on the way up.
They had 5 floors to clear.
The guy may have killed himself after first contact with police...
No cameras found in hallway, so that (and so much else) is so much internet BS.
Having the full story can often times remove the mystery you voiced. Patience and minimal research helps....
The elevators in Mandalay are challenging too. There are multiple that only reach certain floors and they’re slow as hell. It’s likely they lost 10-12 minutes figuring out how to get to the room and getting up there. Do we know if they got snipers in place to stop the shooting within that time period? If so, they may have taken their time to get up there to secure exits, clear public, etc.
I saw the “72 minute” headline on Drudge.
Very hard to believe that.
The Police could have had suppression fire on those two 32nd floor windows in less than 10 minutes - unless they feared killing innocent guests in nearby rooms.
Bump
You are right.
Hebrews 11:6 is wrong.
600 casualties would be a good reason
The Orlando PD were also rather slow to stop the Pulse massacre.
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