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Charging future EVs could take seconds with new sodium-ion battery tech
Live Science ^ | May 3, 2024 | Owen Hughes

Posted on 05/06/2024 11:49:50 AM PDT by Red Badger

A new type of hybrid sodium-ion battery that offers both high capacity and rapid-charging capabilities could power mobile devices, electric vehicles and space tech.

Researchers have developed a new coin-type sodium-based battery that can charge rapidly “in seconds” and could potentially power everything from smartphones to electric vehicles (EVs) in the future.

By combining anode materials used in conventional batteries with cathodes from supercapacitors — batteries that can store and deliver energy at very high rates –– the scientists created a new type of sodium-ion battery that offers both high capacity and rapid-charging capabilities.

They were looking for a way to overcome the current limitations of sodium-ion energy storage — touted as an alternative to lithium-ion batteries — and described their findings in a study published March 29 in the journal Energy Storage Materials.

The new sodium-ion hybrid fuel cells could serve as a "viable next-generation alternative to lithium-ion batteries," the researchers said in a joint statement, with applications ranging from laptops and mobile devices to electric vehicles and aerospace technologies.

Sodium is significantly more abundant than lithium –– up to 1,000 times more, the researchers said –– making sodium-ion batteries potentially cheaper and more sustainable to produce than the lithium-ion batteries currently used to power most EVs and consumer electronics.

However, existing sodium-ion batteries offer lower power output and storage capacity than lithium-ion batteries and take longer to charge, thus limiting their potential applications. In the new study, the researchers sought a way to tackle the shortcomings of the technology.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Military/Veterans; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: automotive; batteries; ecars; electric; ev; lithium; natronenergy; sodium
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1 posted on 05/06/2024 11:49:50 AM PDT by Red Badger
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Researchers have developed a new coin-type sodium-based battery that can charge rapidly “in seconds” and could potentially power everything from smartphones to electric vehicles (EVs) in the future.

Engineers have had this battery about 5 years now and it works as advertised, .... however, they can't make it in sizes much larger than a quarter. The largest auto that you could power it with is the size of a Hot Wheels.

2 posted on 05/06/2024 11:57:46 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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The largest auto that you could power it with is the size of a Hot Wheels.

Maybe that's the 'plan'.....................

3 posted on 05/06/2024 12:00:10 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

They are either full of crap or it’s very dangerous. Transfer of enough energy to power anything of any size for very long is going to take a lot longer than “seconds”, if the transfer is stable.


4 posted on 05/06/2024 12:00:42 PM PDT by GrumpyOldGuy
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Great, but how do you extinguish them when they catch on fire?

Elemental sodium, like phosphorous, doesn’t play well with water, IIRC.


5 posted on 05/06/2024 12:01:02 PM PDT by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: Red Badger

Still doesn’t answer the question of where the power is going to come from. Regardless of how fast it charges, the amount of power remains the same and in fact faster charging would put even more of a strain


6 posted on 05/06/2024 12:08:30 PM PDT by blitz128
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To: Red Badger
Could be. Sodium batteries will power portable electronic devices very efficiently.

You could watch television while you walk to work.

7 posted on 05/06/2024 12:10:40 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Red Badger

But sodium is heavier so is this really appropriate for mobile applications?


8 posted on 05/06/2024 12:11:19 PM PDT by Bayard
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Yeah with magic electric power?????
Brown out/Blackouts
Fast charging takes wattage


9 posted on 05/06/2024 12:15:40 PM PDT by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t coun)
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Charging a vehicle which is twice as expensive, and twice as heavy, is not feasible, no matter how quickly it is accomplished.

Of course, there’s still the fire danger, but Big Brother doesn’t care.


10 posted on 05/06/2024 12:20:52 PM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: Navy Patriot

Sizzlers! Remember those? Tesla Model Ss look suspiciously like what I remember a Sizzler car looking like.


11 posted on 05/06/2024 12:23:11 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Red Badger
Made me think of this:


12 posted on 05/06/2024 12:29:27 PM PDT by xoxox
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To: GrumpyOldGuy

That is what I was thinking, essentially they will be creating bombs.


13 posted on 05/06/2024 12:37:22 PM PDT by gunnut
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To: Disambiguator
Actually, I have forgotten Sizzler toy cars completely, so I checked, and yes, I believe you are correct.

It might be this one:


14 posted on 05/06/2024 12:39:21 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Red Badger

“Could” is meaningless in the real world.


15 posted on 05/06/2024 12:43:38 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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Monkeys *could* fly out of my butt.


16 posted on 05/06/2024 12:48:00 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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These guys think you could re-charge an electric vehicle in seconds? Heck, let’s give them 5 minutes. Now calculate the size of the power infrastructure needed to deliver that much energy in 5 minutes. Now let’s visualize putting it every place there is now a conventional gas station.

Hahahahahaha!


17 posted on 05/06/2024 12:48:48 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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Nope. Still not buying one.

Since everything they replace something bad with turns out to be even worse, no way am I taking any chances.


18 posted on 05/06/2024 12:54:32 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Red Badger

Bull crap.


19 posted on 05/06/2024 1:12:56 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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What’s the big deal? Current EVs recharge in seconds, already. 15000 to 16000 or so, but seconds are seconds… 🙄


20 posted on 05/06/2024 1:25:55 PM PDT by DJ Frisat (If I said something really stupid, chances are I was under the influence of AutoCorrect. 🙄🫤)
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