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Breaking: Holder Was Aware of Fast and Furious
Pundit Press ^ | 10/3/2011 | Thomas Ferdousi

Posted on 10/03/2011 3:10:39 PM PDT by therightliveswithus

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I don’t know if it’s still there but there was video at the DOJ website of Holder speaking to Mexicans about F&F. He has known for a long time. It might be breaking news to Fox but it isn’t breaking to FR.


21 posted on 10/03/2011 3:45:48 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: traditional1
If Holder get's "arrested".....I will walk naked thru the most tick and chigger infested field I know of.

Period.

I think my bet is safe..........

22 posted on 10/03/2011 3:48:33 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: therightliveswithus
Holder testified that he had only heard of the operation "recently."
WHAT did he know, and WHEN did he know it?
And we're not stopping with Holder - impeach and imprison every commie-rat b@stard in this entire administration.
23 posted on 10/03/2011 3:49:26 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: DManA

Good catch. Why don’t you forward this to Issa and Grassly?


24 posted on 10/03/2011 3:50:36 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics)
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To: therightliveswithus
“DOJ says Mexican cartels operating in over 1,000 U.S. cities
… spanning all nine Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) regions,”
according to the U.S. Justice Department’s National Drug Threat Assessment of 2011.”


"Report: Woman survives live grenade in face"


"Sources: Five grenades thrown in Rio Bravo[Mexico]"


"California Iraqi-Mexican crime ring busted
“Police in southern California have arrested 60 people and broken up
an Iraqi criminal ring accused of selling drugs, machine guns and improvised bombs
out of an immigrant social club”


"Child Finds (Live) Grenade Near Local Creek]"


"News Troops kill 3 gunmen in northern Mexico, seize weapons, vehicles
“Three suspected organized crime gummen were killed and another three
were wounded in a clash near the northeastern Mexican city of Matamoros with army troops,
who seized more than 100 weapons and nearly a score of vehicles after the gun battle, military sources said.
The Defense Secretariat’s 4th Military Region said in a statement that 83 automatic rifles,
18 handguns, five grenade launchers, a rocket launcher,
11 fragmentation grenades, 28 40 mm grenades, 315 ammunition clips,
more than 18,000 rounds of ammunition, 17 vehicles and eight kilos of marijuana
were confiscated in Wednesday’s operation. “'


Mexican federal police discover arsenal of heavy weapons in Ciudad Juarez home
“Mexican federal police said Saturday they discovered a basement arsenal
hidden behind the mirrors of a home gym that included three anti-aircraft guns,
dozens of grenades, a grenade launcher, AK-47s and other high-powered weapons. “


[Mexico:]Grenade attacks throughout Tamaulipas; shootouts reported'


"[South Texas]Border Patrol finds rocket launcher, grenade launcher,
explosives near Rio Grande “


Fast & Furious: Congress expanding probe to include grenades



“Despite Denials, Map Proves Deliberate Illegal Gun Trafficking by ATF to Mexico”



“U.S. Admits Mexican (Drug) Cartels Control Parts Of Border”

25 posted on 10/03/2011 3:52:36 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Osage Orange

There are places you really don’t want to get chiggers, just sayin’ lol.


26 posted on 10/03/2011 3:52:51 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: jessduntno

Heck, he’s got the entire US press establishment...


27 posted on 10/03/2011 3:59:18 PM PDT by livius
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To: Osage Orange

Yeah; cold day in Hell when ANY of this Administration’s lackeys are arrested or convicted at all.


28 posted on 10/03/2011 4:02:17 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Osage Orange

Yeah; cold day in Hell when ANY of this Administration’s lackeys are arrested or convicted at all.


29 posted on 10/03/2011 4:02:36 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Hell...I've already had them there.

HA!!

30 posted on 10/03/2011 4:05:05 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: tutstar; MestaMachine

Ruh roh ping-— Holder caught in a bald-face lie? The Fox article is not out yet.

MM: re: Tutstar’s question. Is that video Tutstar is referring to about Holder talking about GunRUNNER, not GunWalker?

“I don’t know if it’s still there but there was video at the DOJ website of Holder speaking to Mexicans about F&F. He has known for a long time. It might be breaking news to Fox but it isn’t breaking to FR.”
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We know he has known-—up to his eyeballs-—but will this be the smoking gun?


31 posted on 10/03/2011 4:11:17 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: jessduntno

Bill Clinton established that it’s OK for Democrats to commit perjury...and he’s white. Holder is doubly immune because of his race.


32 posted on 10/03/2011 4:25:33 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: thouworm; MestaMachine

I found the info, no video though. Maybe my memory was wrong about it being a video, have read so much about this topic it’s hard to know for sure.

http://www.justice.gov/ag/speeches/2009/ag-speech-090402.html

Attorney General Eric Holder at the Mexico/United States Arms Trafficking Conference
CUERNAVACA, MEXICO ~ Thursday, April 2, 2009

Remarks as prepared for delivery.

First, let me express my thanks to Attorney General Medina Mora and Secretary of Government Gomez Mont for making this conference possible.

This is my first trip to another country as Attorney General. I wanted to come to Mexico to deliver a single message: We stand shoulder-to-shoulder with you in this fight against the narcotics cartels. The United States shares responsibility for this problem and we will take responsibility by joining our Mexican counterparts in every step of this fight.

And, together, we will win – thanks in large part to the courage of my Mexican colleagues here today, who are on the front lines every day, and with whom I am proud to collaborate.

The topic that has been addressed over the past two days could not be more important – the development of an arms trafficking prosecution and enforcement strategy on both sides of the border.

I would like to thank the Mexican and U.S. experts who have worked so hard on this issue. On our side, Secretary Napolitano and I are committed to putting the resources in place to increase our attack on arms trafficking into Mexico.

Last week, our administration launched a major new effort to break the backs of the cartels. My department is committing 100 new ATF personnel to the Southwest border in the next 100 days to supplement our ongoing Project Gunrunner, DEA is adding 16 new positions on the border, as well as mobile enforcement teams, and the FBI is creating a new intelligence group focusing on kidnapping and extortion. DHS is making similar commitments, as Secretary Napolitano will detail.

But as today’s conference has emphasized, the problem of arms trafficking will not be stopped at the border alone. Rather, as our experts emphasized, this is a problem that must be met as part of a comprehensive attack against the cartels – an attack in depth, on both sides of the border, that focuses on the leadership and assets of the cartel. This is the type of full-bore, prosecution-driven approach that the U.S. Department of Justice took to dismantle La Cosa Nostra – once the most powerful organized crime group operating in the United States.
With partners like those we have here today, I am confident that together, we will defeat these narcotics cartels in exactly the same way. I am proud to stand with you, and to join you in this fight. Thank you again for inviting me here.

Quiero que el pueblo Mexicano sepa que mi nación está con ustedes en la lucha contra los narcotraficantes.

México y los Estados Unidos comparten mas que una frontera—compartimos cultura, sangre e intereses comunes. Somos hermanos unidos contra una batalla que ganaremos.

Tenemos que aprender de uno a otro, trabajar juntos y luchar juntos. Si hacemos estas cosas, si nos dedicamos juntos a esta lucha, no tengo duda que tendremos éxito.


33 posted on 10/03/2011 4:26:03 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: tobyhill

Don’t throw him in jail until BO is out of office. He’ll just get pardoned.


34 posted on 10/03/2011 4:36:35 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...
WHOAH! PING!

FOR REFERENCE:

DAVID CODREA'S PROJECT GUNWALKER

A Journalist's guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part One

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Two

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Three

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Four

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Five

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Six

FOX VIDEOS

CNN VIDEOS

CBS VIDEOS

CBS Newly-released White House documents (pdf)

DRUDGEWATCH
(updated daily)

Input needed. Have now started a new ping list called BORDER WARS since so many of these stories are starting to intersect and overlap. I would like to keep the Gunwalker threads separate. Let me know if you want on the Border Wars list. It will NOT be the same as Gunwalker, though they might overlap occasionally. Please ping me to any articles you think fit in this catagory. Thank you.


DO IT!

35 posted on 10/03/2011 4:39:18 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Farrago fatigans!)
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To: MestaMachine

Brian Terry’s Family Prepares For Funeral, Rips Obama Admin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPopTU43kwU

Issa Grills Attorney General Holder on Operation Fast and Furious
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NqH88cSBqI

Obstruction Of Justice: Does The Justice Dept Have To Respond To A Congressional Subpoena?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VXa0wcqVBw

Who in Justice Department is Responsible for Operation Fast and Furious?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsI85G-1fb0

“Operation Fast and Furious”: Reckless Decisions, Tragic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cYeIswLQms

***One of the whistleblower’s- ATF Agent Vince Cefalu, (testifying in the video below has been fired since the hearing.***
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/27/

“Operation Fast and Furious: Reckless Decisions, Tragic Outcomes.” Panel 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLcNw1HV_tg&NR=1


36 posted on 10/03/2011 4:41:04 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: tutstar; thouworm

Here is the video:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1198190674001/new-document-sheds-light-on-fast-and-furious/?playlist_id=86858

I waited to check if this wasn’t one of the old GUNRUNNER speeches. It ISN’T.


37 posted on 10/03/2011 4:44:38 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Farrago fatigans!)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


38 posted on 10/03/2011 4:46:38 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: MestaMachine

I thought that tall bushy tree was Michelle for a second.


39 posted on 10/03/2011 4:48:32 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: oh8eleven
WHAT did he know, and WHEN did he know it?

And we're not stopping with Holder - impeach and imprison every commie-rat b@stard in this entire administration.

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I AGREE WITH THAT

Zer0 wanted American guns planted in Mexico in order to demonize American firearms dealers and gun owners.

A cache of assault weapons lost in the ATF's gun-trafficking surveillance operation in Phoenix turned up in El Paso, where they were being stored for shipment to Mexico.

Considering the level of stupidity on display at ATF, the agency might want to consider an insanity defense.

In a sane world, Congress would impeach at least the Department heads involved and depending on his involvement take impeachment action against the President himself. Instead, he's running for re-election.

The piss-stream media ignores corruption story after corruption story on a daily basis now. Sad real sad. Nothing to see here, folks, just move along. Ignore the dead bodies.

Holder2w
Your tax dollars at work under the Obama administration... It's fully paid for.

Have another muffin Eric.

40 posted on 10/03/2011 4:52:41 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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