Obama Administration Lying Again: Syrian Officials Deny Chemical Weapons Use

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[JohnPDuncan]

I’m in my 30’s not out of high school.

[manc]

seen it a couple of times sadly, I think this kid is reading the wrong sites, not understanding theyr;e lying and now thinks of himself as a conservative but has no idea about politics.
He’ll always be in denial

[JohnPDuncan]

That would be Rand and yes, he is socially conservative as far as I know (I dont know him personally )

[dagogo redux]

This is just another example:

I sit here before a computer screen. On this screen are pixels of different hues and intensities.

Some are black against white, and represent written or spoken words, attributed to someone I’ve never met, and who might have who-knows-what motive for writing them.

Some of the colored pixel are organized to represent a visual scene, but I have no way of verifying that either, nor do I know the motives of the people who are responsible. Sometimes my computer’s speakers make a human-like sound that is supposed to reinforce the reality of the pixels.

The words and images are about people and a place and events that I have no way of verifying, and further pixels arguing to the validity of the words and images is likewise of questionable validity and motive.

The assumption is that I should care about all this, that these pixels should motivate me to support or not support some proposed action that will affect my life, affect those I actually know and care about, or my freedom, or my purchasing power, or my lifestyle, or my patriotic pride or sense of morality.

But time and again these assumption have not turned out to be accurate. It turns out I do not know the motives of those who create these conglomeration of pixels, nor the validity of what they are trying to say, nor the true impact it will have on my reality.

Indeed, experience over the past sixty years has taught me not to trust one bit of it.

In this example, I am supposed to spend mental energy, and probably money/taxes, and probably to give up freedoms, to stop someone I don’t know or care about, in a land I don’t know or care about, from doing something supposedly horrible that I can’t verify to people I don’t know or care about and can’t verify. I can’t verify a single bit of it, and in fact I suspect the whole mess and the motives of the people who brought the story to me with their collection of pixels.

What I do know is that I spent most of the morning working in the garden, and that I will now go pray and meditate for an hour, and then go have surgery on my hand this afternoon, and then come home and take it easy until my wife returns from work this evening. That’s real. My friends and neighbors are real. My dog and chickens are real. The view from my porch is real.

The pixels? Do they represent reality? Who knows, and who cares.

[Blood of Tyrants]

My guess is that the do have evidence that chemical weapons were used...by the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood. In that case, it’s okay because Assad is the designated bad guy.

[CottShop]

[[I’m more likely to read American Conservative Magazine]]

[[Liberals are stupid and the biggest hypocrites on the planet]]

Ever hear hteo ld sayuing “Me thinks the lady doth protest too much’? Your words are contradicting your claims- The more you deny beign a liberal, them ore you sound liek one- Your posts are full of hypocrisies which is typical of the left- and hte fact that you feel compelled to keep statign how ‘conservative’ you are- the more liberal you sound-

Go play in soem other forum- we’ve run across trolls liek you many many times before-

[JohnPDuncan]

What sites do I read ??

I read DRUDGE, FREEREPUBLIC, HOTAIR and a few other “right wing” sites.

That’s it!

I also listen to right wing talk radio. I disagree with some stuff, agree with a lot of other stuff.

[mnehring]

Here you go. If this isn't enough, I can supply more. (some you may need to look at the archived version of the link)

WMDS in IRAQ Links

• UNMOVIC REPORT lists 550 shell dispositon
• Arms Control Today - IAEA and UNMOVIC Outline Remaining Disarmament Tasks
• CIA Report that talks about final disposition of the 550 munitions
• UN Report that lists 550 shells later found -Jan 1999
• Chemical munitions found by Polish soldiers were being pursued by terrorists
• Peter Hoekstra site
• 500 munitiions **** DIRECT LINK TO ORIGINAL DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENT ON HOUSE.GOV
• Exclusive: Saddam Possessed WMD, Had Extensive Terror Ties -- 10/04/2004
• Pentagon thinks Saddam bought WMDs in Russia and hid them in Syria - Pravda
• Russia tied to Iraq's missing arms - The Washington Times: Nation/Politics - October 28, 2004
• American Thinker Blog: A second Iraqi former commander confirms WMDs
• United States Senator Rick Santorum :: Press Office
• dems talking about old WMDs here
• Iraq Survey Group Final Report
• DefenseLINK News: Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says
• This is the liberal response to the WMD find: "Santorum recycles bogus Iraq WMD claims"
• Wishful Thinking on Sarin
• Iraq_WMD_Declassified.pdf
• Olivier Guitta: Plan B: Syria’s forgotten — but dangerous — nuclear program - Examiner.com
• Hot Air » Blog Archive » Video: Santorum, Hoekstra, McInerney talk WMD
• Santorum Blog: WMDs?
• terrorist-training-camp-in-iraq-tests-positive-for-biological-weapons
• terrorist-training-camp-in-sargar-iraq-terrorists-and-wmd-docs-found
• terrorist-training-camp-in-sargat-iraq-had-chlorine-wmd
• Philadelphia Inquirer | 06/23/2006 | Santorum insists that WMD report backs prewar threat
• PoliPundit.com » (BREAKING) Iraqi WMD, Possible Transfer To Syria
• Pentagon Fears Old Iraq WMD May Be Used - June 23, 2006 - The New York Sun
• Iraq's Nuclear Weapon Program
• C.I.A. Letter to Senate on Baghdad's Intentions
• Regime of Terror
• NGIC Iraq WMD Report [Archive] - Small Wars Council
• Pentagon Fears Old Iraq WMD May Be Used (Regime Change Iran)
• Melanie Phillips’s Diary » The WMD scandal
• Fox News, May 17, 2004: Sarin, Mustard gas discovered
• BREITBART.COM - Hundreds of chemical weapons found in Iraq: US intelligence
• Iraq Special Weapons News - Global Security.org
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction - Chemical weapons
• Weekly Standard: About Those Iraqi Weapons . . .
• www.cia.gov/cia/public_affairs/speeches/2003/david_kay_10022003.html
• dci_speech_02142004.html
• Reports/721_reports/jan_jun2000.htm
• https://www.cia.gov/cia/public_affairs/speeches/2004/tenet_testimony_03092004.html
• https://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/721_reports/jan_jun1999.html
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD Chapter 4
• Unclassified Report to Congress on the Acquisition of Technology Relating to Weapons of Mass Destruction and Advanced Conventional Munitions, 1 July Through 31 December 2003
• Unclassified Report to Congress on the Acquisition of Technology Relating to Weapons of Mass Destruction and Advanced Conventional Munitions, 1 July Through 31 December 2003
• Testimony to the US Congress by Mr. Charles Duelfer, Director of Central Intelligence Special Advisor for Strategy regarding Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) Programs
• Press Release - Iraq's WMD Programs: Culling Hard Facts from Soft Myths
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD Index
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD Contents
• AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE - (bad links)FULL REPORT TO DCI
• Watch - "U.S. Report Finds No Evidence of Iraq WMD"
• responses to duelfor report
• talk about ISG report - Proof from report American Thinker: No WMDs? Really?
• Never Yet Melted » Missing Iraqi WMD
• THE STRUGGLE FOR IRAQ; U.S. WEB ARCHIVE IS SAID TO REVEAL NUCLEAR PRIMER
• Advantageous excerpts from David Kays ISG report ****
• What Weapons of Mass Destruction Evidence Have We Found In Iraq? Excerpts from David Kay's Report - Tom Holsinger
• The Iraqi WMD -*Lists finds
• FrontPage magazine.com :: Where the WMDs Went by Jamie Glazov
• American Thinker: Case Not Closed: Iraq's WMD Stockpiles
• All Things Conservative: Iraq's WMD: The Left is in Denial
• Discusses amounts etc. : Pesticides, Precursors, and Petulance
• saddams-wmd-found
• salman-pak
• wmd-discovered-in-southern-iraq
• Media Lies - Intelligence gathering on the eve of war
• Media Lies - About a month ago....
• The Iraqi WMDs That Slipped Through Our Fingers
• russia-moved-some-iraq-wmd-to-syria-and-lebanon
• Iraq Official: Saddam Moved WMD to Syria
• iraqi-general-some-iraq-wmd-moved-to-syria-by-plane
• iraq-saran-gas-ied-improperly-triggered-against-allied-troops
• Iraq Survey Group - Wikipedia
• OpinionJournal - LOTS OF INFO TO FOLLOW UP***
• THE STRUGGLE FOR IRAQ; U.S. WEB ARCHIVE IS SAID TO REVEAL NUCLEAR PRIMER
• Robb's Web Journal - Bravenet Blog
• US puts Iraqi documents on the Web - The Boston Globe
• Iraqi Documents Are Put on Web, and Search Is On - New York Times
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD
• Comp_Report_Key_Findings.pdf
• Lists what we thought might be missing : Iraq: Chemical Overview
• Wash. Instit.: Iraq's WMD: An Emerging Challenge... 1-29-01
• Iraq Survey Group Final Report
• >Document Details WMD Recovered In Iraq, Santorum Says
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD
• Document Details WMD Recovered In Iraq
• Pajamas Media: EXCLUSIVE Secret Iraq WMD Report -- Partially Unclassified
• DefenseLINK News: Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says
• Iraqi Intel: Some Iraq WMD Moved To Syria By Truck
• US Agent: Some Iraq WMD Not Recovered Prior Being Moved
• Document Details WMD Recovered In Iraq, Santorum Says
• BizzyBlog » The “No WMD” Lie (with LINKED Proof)
• Transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike - December 16, 1998
• If The Bush Administration Lied About WMD, So Did These People
• FOXNews.com - Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq
• CNN.com - Transcripts
• U.S. Flies Radioactive Items Out Of Iraq
• Chemical munitions found by Polish soldiers were being pursued by terrorists
• Iraqi Chemical Stash Uncovered
• The US says it removed nearly two tons of radioactive material from Iraq in a secret operation last month
• Saddam's Secret Tapes - February 17, 2006
• U.S. Web Archive Is Said to Reveal a Nuclear Primer - New York Times
• Andrew C. McCarthy on Iraq on National Review Online
• Media Monitor - Bush Was Right About Iraq - May 11, 2006
• Media Monitor - WMD Search Not Over - March 23, 2004
• Saving Babylon
• Iraq Special Weapons
• CIA Statement on Iraq's WMD Programs: Culling Hard Facts from Soft Myths
• Iraq, setting the record straight
• Duelfer report
• 2001 Iraqi Document: Saddam Approved the Re-Use of Nuclear Equipments (Important Translation)
• Document: Zarqawi in Iraq Long Before the War Started (See translation and interesting finds)
• Document: Afghani Taliban Consul Spoke of a Relationship Between Iraq and Bin Laden
• 2003 Document: Hundreds of Palestinian Terrorists to Join Saddam And Fight US Troops
• Saddam Regime Document: Iraqi Intelligence met with Bin Laden in 1995 (Translation)
• jveritas (Mr. Shada's) translations of DOCEX Documents
• September 1998 Document: Secret Research Programs Related to WMD (Translation)
• Ex-Official: Russia Moved Saddam's WMD
• Iraq_WMD_Declassified.pdf
• Republican Lawmakers Cite Shells as WMD Proof
• Bush Was Right: Syria Hides Saddam WMD - The Post Chronicle
• Iraq Official: Saddam Moved WMD to Syria
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD ch5_anxG_img01.jpg
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD Chapter 5 Annex G
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD Timerline
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD Chapter 1
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD Chapter 1 Annex A
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD Chapter 2
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD Chapter 3
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD Chapter 6
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD Scope
• Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD Transmittal
• CIA Statement on Recently Acquired Iraqi Centrifuge Equipment
• jveritas- Excellent source of translations of Captured Iraqi documents that are part of the DOCEX database released by John Negroponte, but later taken off line (because of the New York Times)

[JohnPDuncan]

LOL here we go again.

I am not in any way shape or form “left-wing”.

I consider myself right wing and a Taft Republican (he was picked by JFK as one of the 5 best ever senators).

If you think im left-wing you must5 think Taft is and he was called ‘Mr Republican’ in the 1950’s.

Go look him up.

[manc]

then I suggest you read your own posts again and then you might understand how nuts you sound.

You still keep saying how Clinton voted for the war and yet you ignore so did the right and the only ones opposing were Nader, Paul and that loon crew.

You should do yourself a favor and take a break and come back when you can get some decent facts and then understand what you’re talking about.

Not an attack on you but you are seriously in denial, even about Taft who did not want the NAZIs at Nuremburg and did massive welfare programs

You views are within the Paul bots and you are no conservative let alone republican

[raygunfan]

‘whomp’ right upside his confused little head......

cant wait for the outright dismissal of all of these.....

[manc]

he was picked by JFK, you are aware JFK was a Dem right?

The more you protest the more your views come out and the more you keep contradicting your own views and points

[Darksheare]

I remember people moving the goalposts repeatedly on what constitutes proof of WMD.
So when the Sarin IED shell showed up, they went into overdrive trying to excuse it, ignore it, or claim Sarin is not a WMD.
So here we are years later with teh left -the same guys who claimed Sarin was not a WMD years ack- and they want to now claim that it is.
It is apparently too much to ask for consistency.

As for the kid, who knows.
I wouldn’t put it past old poster “JohnGalt” to try and come back to play his old games.

[manc]

LOL true

[JohnPDuncan]

I want to shut down most of the Federal government.

Left-wingers dont want that. They want bigger government and I want it constitutionally limited.

You’re throwing labels at me and attacking me because I disagree - like Taft and many other Republicans - with the concept of pre-emptive war.

You’re wrong to do so and it’s extremely disconcerting.

[CottShop]

[[The pixels? Do they represent reality? Who knows, and who cares.]]

The peopel who were beign burned alive, thrown off buildings, put htrough giant shredders ALIVE, dunked in acid, doused with gas o ntheir faces, and set on fire, they all cared- right before Saddam had them murdered-

[[But time and again these assumption have not turned out to be accurate.]]

I guess then the witnesses and victims who testified to cognress were all lying-

[[My friends and neighbors are real. My dog and chickens are real. The view from my porch is real.]]

so were the peopel hangign from meat hooks in warehosues of torture in Iraq- who had their skin ripped rom them while they were alive, who had their genitals hacked off, who had their eyes gouged out

So were the peopel who died of mustard gas i nthe village that saddam ordered wiped out with WMD’s

[manc]

yea moving the goal posts is a good way of putting it, now WMD’s are pressure cookers to the left and yet Sarin was not.

The left just change the rules for what they need the rules to be when it suits them, this is what is happening here

[JohnPDuncan]

Even if they had WMD and were on the verge of having Nukes I wouldnt support invading them.

Robert Taft never supported entry into WW2 until Pearl Harbor in 1941.

That’s when a response is justified; Iraq never attacked the US.

[mnehring]

Forgot a good one on the last list. A declassified congressional memo citing 500+ finds.
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Iraq_WMD_Declassified.pdf

[Tijeras_Slim]

I’m a True Conservative. I took a political test at my workplace in Connecticut and was the most conservative. I scored 91% conservative in the top 2% for all Americans. I have impressive conservative credentials. I even did a tea party.

I TAKE MY CONSERVATISM VERY VERY VERY SERIOUSLY!!!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!

YOU OWE ME RESPECT!!!

Danny H

Now THIS is how you establish your conservative street cred... get with the program.