Posted on 05/07/2013 9:06:09 AM PDT by Starman417
The Obama regime official story about the events that transpired on 9/11/12 continues to unravel, and despite Jay Carney's insistence that it was "a long time ago" facts keep crawling out from under the rubble of the consulate.
Testimony of those involved directly with the Benghazi disaster conflicts sharply with the position of the Obama regime.
A stand down order
The Obama regime has repeatedly denied that a stand down order was issued but the No. 2 Libya embassy official disputes it.
The deputy of slain U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens has told congressional investigators that a team of Special Forces prepared to fly from Tripoli to Benghazi during the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks was forbidden from doing so by U.S. Special Operations Command Africa.The account from Gregory Hicks is in stark contrast to assertions from the Obama administration, which insisted that nobody was ever told to stand down and that all available resources were utilized. Hicks gave private testimony to congressional investigators last month in advance of his upcoming appearance at a congressional hearing Wednesday.
Aid could not have gotten there in time
A special operator claims otherwise
A military special ops member who watched as the deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi unfolded last September told Fox News the U.S. had highly trained forces just a few hours away, and said he and others feel the government betrayed the four men who died in the attack.Speaking on condition of anonymity, and appearing in a Fox News Channel interview with his face and voice disguised, the special operator contradicted claims by the Obama administration and a State Department review that said there wasn’t enough time for U.S. military forces to have intervened in the Sept. 11 attack in which U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, an embassy employee and two former Navy SEALs working as private security contractors were killed.
“I know for a fact that C-110, the EUCOM CIF, was doing a training exercise in … not in the region of North Africa, but in Europe,” the operator told Fox News' Adam Housley. “And they had the ability to act and to respond.”
Hicks also believes help could have timely
In the interview, Hicks said the administration could have saved the lives of its diplomats if it had dispatched just one aircraft from nearby Souda Bay, about an hour away.“I believe that if we had been able to scramble a fighter or aircraft or two over Benghazi as quickly as possible after the attack commenced, I believe there would not have been a mortar attack on the annex in the morning because I believe the Libyans would have split,” Hicks said. “They would have been scared to death that we would have gotten a laser on them and killed them.”
The hard fact is that unless the Obama regime knew about the attack and how it was going to end they could not possibly know if help would have arrived in time or not.
Clearance for an air strike?
Q: But do you think, you know, if an F-15, if the military had allowed a jet to go fly over, that it might have prevented [the second attack]?A: Yeah, and if we had gotten clearance from the Libyan military for an American plane to fly over Libyan airspace. The Libyans that I talked to and the Libyans and other Americans who were involved in the war have told me also that Libyan revolutionaries were very cognizant of the impact that American and NATO airpower had with respect to their victory. They are under no illusions that American and NATO airpower won that war for them. And so, in my personal opinion, a fast-mover flying over Benghazi at some point, you know, as soon as possible might very well have prevented some of the bad things that happened that night.
Q : The theory being, the folks on the ground that are doing these -- committing these terrorist attacks look up, see a heavy duty airplane above, and decide to hightail it?
A: I believe that if -- I believe if we had been able to scramble a fighter or aircraft or two over Benghazi as quickly as possible after the attack commenced, I believe there would not have been a mortar attack on the annex in the morning because I believe the Libyans would have split. They would have been scared to death that we would have gotten a laser on them and killed them.
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Q: I just wanted to ask, you mentioned permission from the Libyans. Why is that important? What did you mean by that?
A: Well, it's their country. And for an American military aircraft to fly over their country, we have to have permission from them to do so.
Q: So what would have been the risk of -- do you think it would have been risky for us to send someone, do you think it would have been counterproductive for us to send a fighter pilot plane over Benghazi without that permission?
A: We would have certainly wanted to obtain that permission. I believe we would have gotten it if we had asked. I believe that the Libyans were hoping that we were going to come bail them out of this mess. And, you know, they were as surprised as we were that American -- the military forces that did arrive only arrived on the evening of September 12. Yeah.
Somehow, this makes no sense to me. Obama did not seek Gaddafi's permission to bomb Gaddafi into oblivion, but Obama would need it to conduct a rescue mission?
Uh-uh.
Security assistance was requested repeatedly
A diplomatic security office lowers the boom on Hillary Clinton's State Department
Nordstrom offered some of the most pointed criticism of the security deficiencies in Libya when he testified before Issa's committee last year that State Department officials in Washington were denied repeated requests for more protection for the mission. The other two officials have not been heard from publicly before.“The takeaway … for me and my staff, was abundantly clear — we were not going to get resources until the aftermath of an incident,” Nordstrom testified in October. “And the question that we would ask is: How thin does the ice have to get before someone falls through?”
"For me,” he said, “the Taliban is on the inside of the [State Department].”
Still another source, Mark Thompson, will testify that Hillary Clinton put her thumb on how the event was reported:
(excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...
Of course, the enemedia were not on Nixon's side, so perhaps that has something to do with it.
"I ran the bureau then, and I can say now with certainty, as the former Coordinator for Counterterrorism, that this charge is simply untrue," he said. "Though I was out of the country on official travel at the time of the attack, I was in frequent contact with the Department. At no time did I feel that the Bureau was in any way being left out of deliberations that it should have been part of."Look at that escape clause and the weasel word (emphasis added). Summed up: I had no direct knowledge but feel comfortable in calling the deputy a liar.
Government one day at a time...yesterday is old news, today the gov’t has fundamentally changed, tomorrow it will change again.
The new normal in Amerika!
No one should buy the excuse that we needed permission to fly into Libya from the Libya government! That is just not true at all! Obama does not get permission for his drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen!
We don’t need permission to save American lives. That is a false argument from the State Department and one I hope gets shot down quickly in the hearing tomorrow!
We do not need to know if a “stand down” order was ever given.
We only need to know if Obama, The President, gave the cross border authority. That’s it: Did he or didn’t he? He obviously did not.
We are all expendable for the government nowadays.
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There were forces in Tripoli that were ready to go and on their way to board a C-130. There were also forces on Sigonella ready to go as well. All in all there were enough forces geared up and ready to go, and be in Benghazi within three hours of the start of the attack, to take the whole city of Benghazi.
Hey, I’ve been saying that this administration regarded them as expendable since a few days after the attack. What does it matter???
“It was a long time ago.”
“What difference does it make?”
In the coming Civil War, is there any doubt whose side our Special Forces will be on?
(Hint: NOT Obama’s.)
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